tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21219785.post114170267107032042..comments2024-03-25T17:35:02.238-04:00Comments on Debunking Christianity: A Corrupt and Scandalous FaithUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21219785.post-82544131439004095332009-11-21T16:01:53.421-05:002009-11-21T16:01:53.421-05:00Strictly speaking the 1722 practice of inoculation...Strictly speaking the 1722 practice of inoculation was dangerous. It was deliberate infection with smallpox under controlled conditions (i.e., being in good health and with good nursing care around) and it could kill or badly scar (though the odds were better than catching smallpox in uncontrolled circumstances perhaps when conditions weren't so good). Vaccination, the deliberate infection with cowpox, only came about in the late 1700s. Also clergy came down on both sides; Rev. Cotton Mather was a big proponent of inoculation in Massachusetts.Erphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18037406583478493064noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21219785.post-64484401283383959222009-11-21T15:00:20.977-05:002009-11-21T15:00:20.977-05:00Postscript: As far as the biblical references (2 ...Postscript: As far as the biblical references (2 John 1:10-11) cited in the post;<br /><br />God does not condone elitism -- ppl who perceive these verses to mean that we ought to marginalize ppl are blind to the ways that sin accomplishes that goal. Sinfulness is what causes ppl to cooperate with the habits of elitism and marginalizing others. <br /><br />God doesn't enable, promote or assist ppl in remaining lost or in the dark about what it means to be a caring, human hearted person.<br /><br />There is a difference between being in fellowship and loving one's enemies - if one has been saved by grace, then one no longer desires to give license to another to remain lost in the dark.Manifesting Mini Me (MMM)https://www.blogger.com/profile/08250513504254425163noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21219785.post-82325098536879188502009-11-21T12:16:24.173-05:002009-11-21T12:16:24.173-05:00BEAJ writes: "I was wondering if you know how...BEAJ writes: "I was wondering if you know how Atheists of the 16th and 17th century felt about the beginning of man. . . They obviously didn't believe in God, but what did they think about creation, or didn't they think about it?"<br /><br />The rediscovery of Epicurean philosophy around that time provided an alternative cosmology for atheists to play with. They had Lucretius' speculations about the origins of Earth and life in the fifth book of his poem <i>De rerum natura</i>, for example. <br /><br />BTW, Lucretius, who lived about a century before Paul, falsifies Paul's statement that "the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead." Lucretius, followed Epicurus, inferred invisible atoms, not invisible things of a creator god, as the ultimate metaphysical reality.Mark Plushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03859046131830902921noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21219785.post-64418929403556403722009-11-21T12:15:52.316-05:002009-11-21T12:15:52.316-05:00John wrote: "What some Christians fail to see...John wrote: "What some Christians fail to see is that when they demonize us and treat us disrespectfully at Debunking Christianity they have ceased to see us as persons too."<br /><br />You are not observing anything new or alarming - if you believed Jesus, you would already know that the seed of the Pharisees demonstrates itsself in the form of moral conceit and you would be prepared to love them as enemies!<br /><br />God's enlightenment includes the maturation/progress of faith throughout the history of mankind - God's grace allows for ppl to respond at various levels of faith developement.<br /><br />God's grace may seem troublesome for those with an experience or perspective of domineering and abusively empowered authority- e.g., those who expect immediate and total compliance - <br /><br />Wishing you the bestManifesting Mini Me (MMM)https://www.blogger.com/profile/08250513504254425163noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21219785.post-4622723792147577942008-11-12T01:23:00.000-05:002008-11-12T01:23:00.000-05:00I fully agree with your comments of Christianity. ...I fully agree with your comments of Christianity. God agrees with you also. The so called Christians whether they be Catholic. Protestant, Jehovah Witness, Mormons on and on ad infinitum have serious catasrophic error in the interpretation of Scripture. When God is angry in the Scripture it is not with the people outside the church it is with the leaders of the so called Christian church. The book of Revelation is all about the corrupt church. The church itself is the anti christ. It is the whore that Scripture talks about so much. The book of Proverbs is all about the Christian church of today. She is the adultress on every corner. The Scripture was written as a spiritual book not a literal book. God did this to trick these so called self proclaimed wise theologians and preachers and teachers. All through Scripture it tells those who understand to proclaim that she is a LIAR. The so called Christian church is the cause of all the worlds problems. She did not proclaim the message that is very clear in the New Testament. #1 The whole entire world will be in the eternal righteous kingdom of God, except the lying leaders of the church they will be thrust out. #2 SIN is a dead issue should not even be mentioned by a true believer, but all the church does is condemn people as sinners when everyone in God's eyes and the true believers eyes is a saint. A true believer sees the whole world as saved no matter if they believe it or not. For 2000 years we have not had truth coming out of the church. I go to no church but follow the command of Revelation 18:4 Come out of HER my people. If you want to know more of what Scripture really is saying: Please let's talkUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08552658180895893759noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21219785.post-1141748763107921812006-03-07T11:26:00.000-05:002006-03-07T11:26:00.000-05:00Excellent collection of historical facts, Mr. Holm...Excellent collection of historical facts, Mr. Holman. We should not forget them.<BR/><BR/>Jennifer: "I don't think that being atheist means that you are a demon or that you should be burned at the stake. That is where your problem lies... You group all christians together and assume that we all feel the same way. Just as many christians feel the way you said, we don't ALL feel that way." <BR/><BR/>We can only go by what Christian doctrine teaches and what Christian believers say, Jennifer. Christian doctrine, as it is informed by the books of the Old and New Testaments, make it clear that non-belief in the Christian god as such is evil, and that "unbelievers" are "at enmity" with its god. There is no affirmation of man's right to exist for his own sake in Christian doctrine, and non-Christians are referred to as despicable reprobates which "the Father" will cast into an eternal hell to be tormented for ever, all for simply governing their minds by their conscience, honestly admitting that they do not believe the hocus-pocus of these religious teachings. The bible promotes a primitive philosophy, one which is unfit for man's life on earth (the ideal it offers is life after death in a magic kingdom beyond the grave), and which nowhere prohibits enslavement or the initiation of the use of force. It teaches that witches, rebellious children and worshippers of rival gods be taken without the city and stoned. Many believers today (I can provide quotes if you like) in fact advocate the execution of "heretics." In essence, this hideous worldview views the honest man as an enemy, having divided men into two opposing collectives: the chosen vs. the damned. Christians of course, having accepted this false dichotomy, prefer to number themselves among the chosen while apparently being satisfied by viewing everyone else as "damned." Meanwhile, when it comes to providing you as an individual with the rational principles you need in order to guide your choices and actions, Christianity leaves you out in the cold. Consequently you have to borrow from wisdom of "the natural man" as you endeavor to live in his realm the only way one can: on its terms. So why be a Christian?<BR/><BR/>On the other hand, many Christians will point out that they do not agree with other Christians on many of these issues, thus underscoring the fact that there is no uniformity in the Christian body. Mt. 12:25 provides Christianity's own epitaph in this regard: "And Jesus knew their thoughts, and said unto them, Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation; and every city or house divided against itself shall not stand." Again, why be a Christian?<BR/><BR/>Jennifer: "If you find your peace in something else, so be it." <BR/><BR/>I live, move and have my being in my <B>Self</B>, and I am wholly at peace with this fact. But many Christians are not prepared to resign themselves to the matter with a mere "so be it." They lust after authority over other minds, for they are threatened by their very existence. They want to control what they fear, which is why they formulate such elaborate systems of theology. By defining their god to the most infinitesimal degree, they effectively put their god in a straightjacket where it can do them no harm.<BR/><BR/>Jennifer: "Please, even though you have opinions, keep your mind open to the possibility that maybe we are all a little wrong." <BR/><BR/>Indeed, there was a time when I was gravely wrong, Jennifer. Instead of pretending to be born again, I recovered myself and grew up. Now I know I'm right, and this really bothers some people.<BR/><BR/>Jennifer: "If the answers were supposed to be clear, then they would be. However, we are left with uncertainties that only faith can bring peace about."<BR/><BR/>You're getting warmer: faith thrives on ignorance. This much is certain.<BR/><BR/>Regards,<BR/>DawsonBahnsen Burnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11030029491768748360noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21219785.post-1141743792802982352006-03-07T10:03:00.000-05:002006-03-07T10:03:00.000-05:00Jennifer-Do the Christians who believe atheists sh...Jennifer-<BR/><BR/>Do the Christians who believe atheists should still be killed have Bible versed that back them up? Maybe the problem isn't with the individual Christians, it's with Christian doctrine, and ultimately with the Bible itself.Zachary Moorehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16991061670470673718noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21219785.post-1141740349475910472006-03-07T09:05:00.000-05:002006-03-07T09:05:00.000-05:00I am Christian. I don't think that being atheist m...I am Christian. I don't think that being atheist means that you are a demon or that you should be burned at the stake. That is where your problem lies... You group all christians together and assume that we all feel the same way. Just as many christians feel the way you said, we don't ALL feel that way. If you find your peace in something else, so be it. I will think about you, pray for you and hope that maybe someday, you will come to know the comfort of a God who loves you in spite of any doubts you may have. Please, even though you have opinions, keep your mind open to the possibility that maybe we are all a little wrong. If the answers were supposed to be clear, then they would be. However, we are left with uncertainties that only faith can bring peace about. Good luck and God bless.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21219785.post-1141720429273594702006-03-07T03:33:00.000-05:002006-03-07T03:33:00.000-05:00Once you demonize someone they are no longer a per...Once you demonize someone they are no longer a person to you. You can then torture and burn him at the stake if you have the political power.<BR/><BR/>What some Christians fail to see is that when they demonize us and treat us disrespectfully at Debunking Christianity they have ceased to see us as persons too. <BR/><BR/>The only thing that keeps them from torturing and killing us is.....is......is.....political power.<BR/><BR/>But they're too stupid to see this, or they are willfully ignorant of it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21219785.post-1141716135423004902006-03-07T02:22:00.000-05:002006-03-07T02:22:00.000-05:00Christianity is merely the tool of these people yo...Christianity is merely the tool of these people you mention. If they weren't Christian, they would just find the next most convenient excuse to be ignorant and evil.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21219785.post-1141709394192860932006-03-07T00:29:00.000-05:002006-03-07T00:29:00.000-05:00Dear Jennifer, There is an atheist who attends chu...Dear Jennifer, <BR/><BR/>There is an atheist who attends churches regularly and writes about his experiences on a blog titled, "An Atheist Walks Into A Church": <BR/><BR/>http://www.ebayatheist.blogspot.com/Edwardtbabinskihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13036816926421936940noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21219785.post-1141707593303894622006-03-06T23:59:00.000-05:002006-03-06T23:59:00.000-05:00I'm sorry that you have this picture of christiani...I'm sorry that you have this picture of christianity. Have you stepped foot in a christian church recently? Are you only interested in what "the church", namely the catholic church has done? Do you think that maybe the God christians worship today is not necessarily the god age old catholics preached about. Remember that in any religion or faith practice, peoples ideas and interpretations come into play. God has no control over that. Free will- unfortunately society has used that for their best interests, then and now. In all your studies, have you found anything worthwhile that isn't reflected in a negative light?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21219785.post-1141705349779717662006-03-06T23:22:00.000-05:002006-03-06T23:22:00.000-05:00You seem to have lots of historical knowledge. I ...You seem to have lots of historical knowledge. I was wondering if you know how Atheists of the 16th and 17th century felt about the beginning of man. This was a period when the age of the earth was still thought to be very young (it still is by the nutcases today I know), and it was a period before evolution and dinosaur bones. They obviously didn't believe in God, but what did they think about creation, or didn't they think about it?Baconeaterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11134934827966299989noreply@blogger.com