tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21219785.post5583681022254101408..comments2024-03-25T17:35:02.238-04:00Comments on Debunking Christianity: The Role of Persuasion in the Question of the Holy SpiritUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21219785.post-46523185989445302252008-02-10T23:25:00.000-05:002008-02-10T23:25:00.000-05:00This post is regretably illogical.Unfortunately, i...This post is regretably illogical.<BR/><BR/>Unfortunately, it commits the Logical fallacy of endless queastions. By askignthem, and setting up false dllimas, the author hopes then to discredit a posiiton he truly has not argued agaisnt.<BR/><BR/>In the same way, anythign can be argued agaisnt.<BR/><BR/>Behold! I can argue agasint Science using this method of arugmentation.<BR/><BR/>I will be much shorter than Lee, but, I can do a longer post if required.<BR/><BR/><BR/>We have Tom. Tom beleives Science will lea dhim tot he truth abot the Universe, but is no expert.<BR/><BR/>Tom pick sup soem books on Evolutuioanry theory. Inside bok1 he reads abotu a Gradualists theory. Book 2 speaks of Punctuated Equilibrium. <BR/><BR/>Both cnanot be true, and TOm is presented with thre options.<BR/><BR/>1: Gradualism.<BR/><BR/>2: Pubnctuated Equilibium.<BR/><BR/>3: A mix of the tewo.<BR/><BR/>Tom also knows, as do the Ahteist shere, that Human reaosn alone is the soruce f ou knwoeldge, so Tm sets about to test the truth of these by ysing his own Human reasoning, and decided on the third option because the other two arugments sound reaosmable andhtis woudl thus aocutn for everythign in his mind.<BR/><BR/><BR/>OF CORUSE, you will argue that the holy SPirit is suppose to guide the Chrisian he indwells.<BR/><BR/>But...<BR/><BR/>Not all Christians view this as the same. I knw that Catholisism doens't. I know Orthodoxy doesn't. THey say the Holy Spirit leads us via the Church.<BR/><BR/>Guess who shares Modified orms of htis?<BR/><BR/>Classical PRotestant Chruches, and Protestant Chruches that follow classical theology.<BR/><BR/>Othr Protestant Bodies may deny such direct guidance altogather, and still yet say that we gradually as individuals and society grow toward the truth. ( THis is the ocntemproary Angican posiiton for example.)<BR/><BR/>Obviously your gross Generalisaiton doesn't cover all Christians, or even all Evangelicals. It is a Categorical fallacy.<BR/><BR/>Liekise, or the CHurhces listed above, and others who reject the direct inner guidance of the Holy Ghost on the beleiver at all times, the "Interferance of Satan" argument simply doens't hold up.<BR/><BR/>If they bungle osmethign it means hey bungled it. <BR/><BR/><BR/>Given the plethra of options ( as opposed tot he narrow oens you present) and the fact that you can cfreate this sort of reaosnign to discredit anyoen or anything, I'd say this argument is false.ZAROVEhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17668854596329493360noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21219785.post-72760465667651745892007-07-22T14:03:00.000-04:002007-07-22T14:03:00.000-04:00I would say there would be many of the same topics...I would say there would be many of the same topics and some different for sure. The Holy ghost can only verify what is truth.Richhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05816549810869986623noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21219785.post-15966072098634730132007-07-18T23:15:00.000-04:002007-07-18T23:15:00.000-04:00Hi Rich,using your method, then we are back at squ...Hi Rich,<BR/>using your method, then we are back at square one. Would you agree that the topics you get confirmation about from the Holy Spirit would not get Confirmation in the likes of the Pope or Billy Graham?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17353286859864448748noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21219785.post-31687150263851032962007-07-18T15:17:00.000-04:002007-07-18T15:17:00.000-04:00In reading this it was hard for me to pick out whe...In reading this it was hard for me to pick out where the HG had the opportunity to verify true doctrine. After Tom has discovered that there is a possibility that the gifts of the spirit are either valid for everyone today or were only valid for the apostles, he should study scriptures and come to a decision on what he thinks is truth. At this point he should take his question to God in prayer saying he has decided that some are valid and some aren't, and asking is this right? Then he will receive an answer, (warm fuzzy). That's really a terrible term to use but when someone says burning in your bosom you think of heart burn. Kind of like "I'm gonna hurl, it must be right." That's way offRichhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05816549810869986623noreply@blogger.com