tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21219785.post7342885106451136025..comments2024-03-25T17:35:02.238-04:00Comments on Debunking Christianity: Eddie Tabash Recommends My Book!Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger22125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21219785.post-12548046362338672582009-04-18T01:05:00.000-04:002009-04-18T01:05:00.000-04:00With all the fawning here over Tabash and his perf...With all the fawning here over Tabash and his performance in his debate with Craig (which I haven't seen yet, but plan to now that Mr. Loftus' site has brought it to my attention), I would recommend that everyone get ahold of Tabash's debate against Greg Bahnsen. <br /><br />That had to be one of the worst days of Eddie's life.Anthony Rogershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04311194078700307794noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21219785.post-82284383440819151412007-10-08T04:38:00.000-04:002007-10-08T04:38:00.000-04:00ag- if you read several posts and their comments h...ag- if you read several posts and their comments here, you will see that John does not ban people for merely disagreeing with him- there are all kinds of opinions expressed here. What he doesn't put up with- and why should he?- is people who are abusive, like Frank Walton.<BR/><BR/>Having spent some time at Walton's atheist-bashing site, I also can recognize his style. If you try to post something too critical at "AtheismSucks!", no matter how polite and to the point, you will either get called names ("idiot" is the nicest thing Frank says of his critics) or simply not be posted. Try it yourself.<BR/><BR/>There's always a problem trying to decide where to draw the line with abusive posters, but I think John is pretty tolerant.zilchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01695741977946935771noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21219785.post-56011821094206343412007-10-08T03:37:00.000-04:002007-10-08T03:37:00.000-04:00I don't care much for the debate going on here...i...I don't care much for the debate going on here...it is intresting that you ban people from your blog because they have a differing opinion...do you do the same to your students if they disagree with your philosophy? or does it come from your bitterness towards the christian faith? Personally i dont mind if you ban me or not...or even if you care what i say...i am not even christian myself...but i find it fascinating that you don't like being challenged or your 'book' which i havent read nor am interested in (dont care much for God books)being attacked. Oh well we all need to function somehow.<BR/>All the bestCPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07061614570571933329noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21219785.post-54422064494524561752007-09-28T13:03:00.000-04:002007-09-28T13:03:00.000-04:00Reggie,Emmanuel Goldstein, Singh, der Scheinende, ...Reggie,Emmanuel Goldstein, Singh, der Scheinende, and Frank Walton--they're probably all the same person. And they are all banned.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21219785.post-55393573175475772242007-09-28T12:36:00.000-04:002007-09-28T12:36:00.000-04:00Well, Reggie, since you called John a liar, the bu...Well, Reggie, since you called John a liar, the burden is on you to provide some sort of evidence of this. Attacking a man's integrity is a serious thing. Did you read the comments policy?Billhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07058424176773515878noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21219785.post-62092359892676582942007-09-28T10:01:00.000-04:002007-09-28T10:01:00.000-04:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Reggiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06694467892226359925noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21219785.post-63978493307010704712007-09-26T17:00:00.000-04:002007-09-26T17:00:00.000-04:00Lev, you're banned. I know who you are.Lev, you're banned. I know who you are.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21219785.post-79751018250937837142007-09-26T15:56:00.000-04:002007-09-26T15:56:00.000-04:00Wow, a vocal anti-Zionist who goes by the handle "...Wow, a vocal anti-Zionist who goes by the handle "Lev Bronstein" and whose account was <B>just</B> activated on Blogger. Suspicious?<BR/><BR/>For those not paying attention, the foundation of the modern state of Israel had less to do with Jews trying to fulfill Biblical prophecy, and more with Jews trying to establish their own state in the wake of WWII, a refuge where Jews would be safe from governmental persecution. While I have my own opinions regarding the formation of Israel, "Lev Bronstein" should remember that a huge number of Israeli Jews have no problems being both Israeli and non-observant. Similarly, Americans were "genocidal maniacs" in taking the land from the Native Americans; yet, I don't see Americans abandoning their country in droves.Shygetzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12587529149916263563noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21219785.post-29020216163574177322007-09-26T13:32:00.000-04:002007-09-26T13:32:00.000-04:00GordonBlood, that's exactly why we cannot evaluate...GordonBlood, that's exactly why we cannot evaluate a worldview in a piecemeal fashion, like is done with short essays here at DC. To properly evaluate a worldview we must do so as a whole, and my book does exactly this. It is a whole argument, one argument, evaluating the Christian worldview as a whole.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21219785.post-48152552954354344132007-09-26T13:26:00.000-04:002007-09-26T13:26:00.000-04:00I do agree Lee that religion comprises many interd...I do agree Lee that religion comprises many interdependent arguments which link together. But the same is true, I suggest, for any worldview, including (strong) forms of atheism. Weak forms of atheism i think may not fall into this interdependent category.GordonBloodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16426901390201595020noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21219785.post-37196316594073240622007-09-26T12:07:00.000-04:002007-09-26T12:07:00.000-04:00Tabash is not credible, although a Jewish Atheist ...Tabash is not credible, although a Jewish Atheist who trashed the Old Testament, he still is a strong Zionist.<BR/><BR/>What the hell for?<BR/><BR/>In his view the jews were genocidal maniacs taking the land, it certainly wasn't promised to them by God.<BR/><BR/>And yet he goes on and on about Israels's "rights".<BR/><BR/>What rights does their history give them , except the right of the stronger to kill the weaker?<BR/><BR/>After all, they have the bomb.<BR/><BR/>Ever heard of the Sampson Option.<BR/><BR/>Don't link yourself to Tabash.LevBronsteinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15592077287494209664noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21219785.post-7003295402968922342007-09-26T01:07:00.000-04:002007-09-26T01:07:00.000-04:00Hey, John. It sounds like I'm gonna have to get t...Hey, John. It sounds like I'm gonna have to get this book...<BR/><BR/>I still don't have the money for ANY books right now, but when I do I'll probably check it out first. Sounds like good stuff.IrishFarmerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09660604957080273563noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21219785.post-69572255364785133602007-09-25T23:04:00.000-04:002007-09-25T23:04:00.000-04:00John is absolutely right.Religion is a complex arg...John is absolutely right.<BR/>Religion is a complex argument with many interdependencies. It is an open ended problem with no parameters. <BR/>One thing depends on another. You need to buy Johns book to get the big picture.<BR/><BR/>There is no silver bullet for debunking christianity. If there was, it would be a dead religion.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17353286859864448748noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21219785.post-49455962933455221962007-09-25T16:48:00.000-04:002007-09-25T16:48:00.000-04:00I think you will agree that I mentioned nothing ab...<I>I think you will agree that I mentioned nothing about the text itself; only the importance of its recommendation.</I><BR/><BR/>And I said "it is what it is." I myself am pleased, wouldn't you be if you were me?<BR/><BR/>I do put some of what I wrote here (probably about 1/8th of the book can be found here), but in my humble opinion the thrust of reading though all of what I say, in the order I say it, is much different than reading 1/8th of it scattered here and there.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21219785.post-58897762948657083962007-09-25T16:24:00.000-04:002007-09-25T16:24:00.000-04:00My primary concern was not what he felt of your bo...My primary concern was not what he felt of your book, or even the content of the book. I was simply saying that it should not amaze anyone that an atheist like Tabash recommeded it. Indeed it wasnt even my primary point. I havent read the book, namely on account of the fact that I imagine it comprises most of the arguments you make on this website. I did not say the book was good, bad or even moderate, which is why I did not make a statement of quality. Clearly you wish to make this blog an advertising tool, which is purely your express right, just dont be surprised when people downplay the fact that an openly vehement atheist recommends your book and the arguments contained within it. Like I did say however, my main amusement was that a philosophy major did not recognize Tabash's massive amount of red herring and erroneous argumentation. Charismatic persuasiveness is a poor indicator of truth. If I offended you in any way I do apologize John, but if you look at what I actually said in the context in which I said it I think you will agree that I mentioned nothing about the text itself; only the importance of its recommendation.GordonBloodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16426901390201595020noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21219785.post-90441423834176918822007-09-25T12:43:00.000-04:002007-09-25T12:43:00.000-04:00BTW GordonBlood, Tabash did not just give my book ...BTW GordonBlood, Tabash did not just give my book a mere "thumbs up."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21219785.post-44356153519476332182007-09-25T11:45:00.000-04:002007-09-25T11:45:00.000-04:00GordonBlood, how old are you? I never analysed you...GordonBlood, how old are you? I never analysed your mental condition at all. Sheesh. <BR/><BR/>Why do you feel the need to downplay Tabash's recommendation of my book? It is what it is. Do you know how many books he's read about this topic for a comparison? Neither do I. But he was already an "excellent" debater before seeing my book, wasn't he? <BR/><BR/>Besides, what do you say about Geisler and Sennett's recommendations? I don't understand your point here. Would they recommend any atheist book written, in your words, "by a person who has a decent amount of intelligence in the subject?" <BR/><BR/>Besides, the only evaluation of my book that means anthing is YOURS. Have you read it?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21219785.post-90001684362704476222007-09-25T11:28:00.000-04:002007-09-25T11:28:00.000-04:00Why thank you for your analysis of my mental condi...Why thank you for your analysis of my mental condition John. I apologize to you full-heartedly for using the word "amazing" instead of "excellent". As for recommendations I suppose I should have made myself somewhat clearer and I accept that criticism. I meant that an atheist (like Tabash) would give any book written by a person who has a decent amount of intelligence in the subject matter a thumbs up, for the most part. Considering however that you consider persons like Robert Price a reliable source for New Testament criticism however I think you should consider your own ability to properly understand the bible, frankly.GordonBloodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16426901390201595020noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21219785.post-38721430187317368542007-09-25T08:50:00.000-04:002007-09-25T08:50:00.000-04:00Gordonblood, are you saying that these people woul...Gordonblood, are you saying that these people would recommend just any atheist book? I don't, why should they? Do you recommend just any Christian book?<BR/><BR/>And where did I say Tabash did an "amazing" job? I said "he did an excellent job", and that's good enough.<BR/><BR/>With thinking and reading skills like that you shouldn't have any confidence that you can properly understand the Bible.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21219785.post-41750009152896005062007-09-24T16:13:00.000-04:002007-09-24T16:13:00.000-04:00Hmm... Not a whole lot to say in regards to this. ...Hmm... Not a whole lot to say in regards to this. Obviously Tabash would support your book, hes an atheist, so no big surprises there. You may as well pen down Richard Dawkins, Steven Pinker and pretty much every other non-Christian on earth as well for people who would at least affirm your book. As for Tabash being amazing against Craig, that all depends what you mean by amazing. If by amazing you mean flooding questions and pointless assertions that Craig obviously has no time to answer to, then yes he did well. If you mean reflective thought and caution (which, frankly, this site has been lacking over the months since i started visiting) then no, he did not do amazing. As for persuasiveness, yes he did better on that score; but then again he is a lawyer and thus that is his career.GordonBloodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16426901390201595020noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21219785.post-75267089621481477282007-09-24T12:26:00.000-04:002007-09-24T12:26:00.000-04:00Wow. Who knew anything like that was happening rig...Wow. Who knew anything like that was happening right here in God's country? I'll have to swing up to Indy to check out their events some time.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21219785.post-67547190115461916282007-09-24T08:56:00.000-04:002007-09-24T08:56:00.000-04:00One reader misread what I wrote here so let me be ...One reader misread what I wrote here so let me be clear what I'm saying. The only thing I said about my book is that I think it's a good book, if you read what I said properly, and that my aim is to make it the best one on the market today. A counter-apologetics book does not parallel many of the fine single issue books like Mackie's or Oppy's or Drange's or Schellenberg's books, which deal expertly with separate issues like the existence or hiddenness of God and evil--books which are far superior to mine. It parallels those general Christian apologetics books dealing with the whole range of issues supportive of Christianity, and those general books against it. There very well may be skeptical general treatment books that are better than mine. I only said my aim was to make mine the best one, even if I don't succeed.<BR/><BR/>Cheers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com