tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21219785.post7428600015191816363..comments2024-03-25T17:35:02.238-04:00Comments on Debunking Christianity: The Bare Minimal Atheist Library!Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger51125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21219785.post-58446159845870840512009-02-16T12:15:00.000-05:002009-02-16T12:15:00.000-05:00Samphire, the book you're recalling is Brand Blans...Samphire, the book you're recalling is Brand Blanshard's <I>Reason and Belief</I> from 1974. All of Blanshard's work has a lot to recommend it, whether or not you buy into his rationalist idealism. Not the least virtue of Blanshard's work is his wonderfully elegant prose style. Two typical examples: "If there is anything in my philosophy that I should hope might last, it is the quite unoriginal but none the less important thesis that the rational life is at once the worthiest of lives and the most valuable." and "The world for me is a necessary system, and in the degree to which the thinker can surrender his thought to that system and follow it, he is in a sense participating in that which is timeless or eternal."Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03499574953007929446noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21219785.post-26403811548631711312009-02-16T03:00:00.000-05:002009-02-16T03:00:00.000-05:00The usual objections come from Christian apologist...The usual objections come from Christian apologists, the most notorious being Turkel/Holding. Read the book for yourself and decide. The name of Akhenaten is in the Copper Scroll in Greek Letters. The numerals are Egyptian. The gold in one column matches the gold found at Akhetaten. An analysis of the copper shows that it is of Egyptian origin.<BR/><BR/>But study everything else - for example the evidence for Solomon being YmnHtp III is absolutely overwhelming. The main biblical patriarchs have all been identified as being Egyptian. Israel was Lower Egypt. <BR/><BR/>I can direct you to the various web pages with evidence which you can then check for yourself.Calumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06141127852704148146noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21219785.post-51435282095655262332009-02-16T01:32:00.000-05:002009-02-16T01:32:00.000-05:00I've done a quick search regarding the thesis of t...I've done a quick search regarding the thesis of that book No 6 - Egyptologists give a number of reasons that exclude the possibility that Moses was that pharaoh Akhenaten.jUUggernauthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13842556481507708093noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21219785.post-53183620768948118352009-02-16T01:00:00.000-05:002009-02-16T01:00:00.000-05:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Frank Waltonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15975507689047753908noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21219785.post-90410451918583669852009-02-16T00:27:00.000-05:002009-02-16T00:27:00.000-05:001. They Lied to us at Sunday School by Ian Ross Va...1. They Lied to us at Sunday School by Ian Ross Vayro. This book highlights many contradictions in the Bible not normally listed elsewhere.<BR/><BR/>2. God Save Us From Religion by Ian Ross Vayro. A continuation of this author's first book.<BR/><BR/>3. Tears in Heaven by Ian Ross Vayro. Shows the source of many Bible names, and places in Egypt. But also because I am given credit in the book.<BR/><BR/>4. The Bible Fraud by Tony Bushby. A good beginning to see how Christianity was created by a homicidal maniac.<BR/><BR/>5. The Crucifixion of Truth by Tony Bushby. This book shows the lengths that the early church went to, and where and how they turned fables into gospels.<BR/><BR/>6. The Mystery of the Copper Scroll of Qumran by Robert Feather. Essential evidence which confirms that Moses was the Pharaoh Akhenaten.Calumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06141127852704148146noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21219785.post-73587652097282235092009-02-15T20:02:00.000-05:002009-02-15T20:02:00.000-05:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Frank Waltonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15975507689047753908noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21219785.post-60469280208510988102009-02-15T19:06:00.000-05:002009-02-15T19:06:00.000-05:00I didn't even notice that, I see what you mean. Th...I didn't even notice that, I see what you mean. Thanks.Andrewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10659212150994482317noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21219785.post-19730382658785721332009-02-15T18:42:00.000-05:002009-02-15T18:42:00.000-05:00One thing that CAN NOT be faked is the Profile Vie...One thing that CAN NOT be faked is the Profile Views.<BR/><BR/>If a comment is made in poor taste by an impersonated / False Bogger claiming to be someone he or she is not; check out he Profile Views since this is one area that can not be falsified particularly if someone has over 2,000 hits on their Profile View.<BR/><BR/><B>Anyone can cut and past pictures and descriptions off another blogger profile description, but Google totally controls the Profile Views and that’s what will provide the truth!</B>Harry H. McCallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08974655354593831851noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21219785.post-11636482208409046682009-02-15T18:13:00.000-05:002009-02-15T18:13:00.000-05:00Ok, I need to chill out it's probably not John. Bu...Ok, I need to chill out it's probably not John. But what else would you think when you see posts with your profile and it's not you. I just assumed it was John doing it when he approves them, but I found out you really can't do that. Ok my apologies.Andrewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10659212150994482317noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21219785.post-80432208537997217622009-02-15T18:10:00.000-05:002009-02-15T18:10:00.000-05:00Since you can link to the impersonators profile wh...<B>Since you can link to the impersonators profile why don't you report him?</B><BR/><BR/>Good idea, I didn't think of that, thx, I will.Andrewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10659212150994482317noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21219785.post-42651284704937214692009-02-15T16:28:00.001-05:002009-02-15T16:28:00.001-05:00I see two Andrew profiles which are exactly both ...I see two Andrew profiles which are exactly both the same, <B>except one has 254 Profile Views and the other 1,224.</B><BR/><BR/>The fact that both claim the extreme Moslem country of Afghanistan as their location give us a good example that our Andrew is as genuine as the pseudo <I>Acts of Andrew</I> is also genuine and little wonder that both are rejected.Harry H. McCallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08974655354593831851noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21219785.post-6938025031992871022009-02-15T16:28:00.000-05:002009-02-15T16:28:00.000-05:00John, I intend to read Eller's latest book, but I ...John, I intend to read Eller's latest book, but I will probably read his earlier <I>Natural Atheism</I> first. Yesterday I read some glowing reviews of both books.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21219785.post-57206614240296050052009-02-15T16:00:00.000-05:002009-02-15T16:00:00.000-05:00Andrew,Um, why in the world would you think John i...Andrew,<BR/><BR/>Um, why in the world would you think John is impersonating you? Why would he need to? Besides someone has impersonated me numerous times. I finally wised up to him and started playing back, I have also reported him.<BR/><BR/>Since you can link to the impersonators profile why don't you report him?Anthonyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17693944542336729866noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21219785.post-67005964460691449332009-02-15T14:49:00.000-05:002009-02-15T14:49:00.000-05:00Listen John there is someone (probably you) impers...Listen John there is someone (probably you) impersonating my account and posting junk that I didn't say. So it only makes sense that it's going to get confused.<BR/><BR/>So congratulations, you've managed to totally derail the points I've been trying to make. Nice job.<BR/><BR/>The truth hurts huh?<BR/><BR/>Plus I have no idea who this Frank Walton is or what beef you have with him and I really don't care.Andrewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10659212150994482317noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21219785.post-30640081906054241942009-02-15T11:00:00.000-05:002009-02-15T11:00:00.000-05:00Sogn, good list! Thanks for mentioning my book too...Sogn, good list! Thanks for mentioning my book too. There are a lot of great suggestions here. It's kinda tough comming up with a bare minimal atheist library. I too struggled with what to include in my list. But I really recommend David Eller's book, Atheism Advanced. It is probably the best book (next to mine). You must get it. Everyone should get it and read through it! Order it and when it comes in you'll get it, probably soon.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21219785.post-4362100394552421572009-02-15T06:32:00.000-05:002009-02-15T06:32:00.000-05:00Some 30 years or so ago I read a book called "...Some 30 years or so ago I read a book called "Faith & Belief" (or something similar) by an author called Brand Blandford (or something similar). <BR/><BR/>From memory, it was a history of protestant evolution and it set me on the path to atheism. I haven't been able to trace it since and I wonder whether any of you lads have ever come across it.Samphirehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00327984071854007032noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21219785.post-4215731541213047642009-02-15T01:55:00.000-05:002009-02-15T01:55:00.000-05:00Well, well, Andrew and Walton are proving my point...Well, well, Andrew and Walton are proving my point. All they need to do is provide links and evidence to their claims, but they can't. Someday I'll be able to ban them from this blog. They are already banned. It's just that they don't give a damn. <BR/><BR/>Keep pouring gas on the flames on my passion boys. Keep it up. I like it. It will not do your faith any good at all, I promise. You only motivate me. Hell, I was about ready to throw in the towel and get on with my life. Thanks for the motivation. Keep piling the lies on. See where that'll get you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21219785.post-60940106418813490262009-02-14T19:18:00.000-05:002009-02-14T19:18:00.000-05:00Hey Andrew, email me, it's in my profile, he or on...Hey Andrew, email me, it's in my profile, he or one of his cronies will delete this post if I put a link in.<BR/><BR/>I'll fill you in on all the details about Loftus.Frank Waltonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15975507689047753908noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21219785.post-4827601067640469592009-02-14T19:05:00.000-05:002009-02-14T19:05:00.000-05:00Hey Anderw I remeber a while back when John Loftus...Hey Anderw I remeber a while back when John Loftus started posting with made up profiles, so this is his MO so don't be surprised at the lengths he'll go to to discredit you.<BR/><BR/>Why do you think I've been banned?Frank Waltonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15975507689047753908noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21219785.post-39895683150987849002009-02-14T18:59:00.000-05:002009-02-14T18:59:00.000-05:00I'm so glad that CD recommended The Origin of Cons...I'm so glad that CD recommended <I>The Origin of Consciousness in the Breakdown of the Bicameral Mind</I> by Julian Jaynes. My wife and I were just last night discussing how significant that book seems in terms of sowing doubts about the uniqueness of the bible - and in that respect it ties in nicely with John Loftus's chapter on superstition in antiquity vis-a-vis the bible. One problem is that Jaynes's thesis did not catch on with his colleagues, though I confess to not being familiar with any rebuttals. I believe Dawkins mentioned Jaynes in <I>The God Delusion</I> as a thesis that is either profoundly relevant to theism vs atheism or else crazy. Unfortunately, he inclined toward the latter reaction, I suppose because it did not win over the academic community. <BR/><BR/>Another issue here is how narrowly one defines pro-atheism books. Loftus evidently prefers to include only books that are very specific in their advocacy of atheism, rather than books which tend to foster atheism, perhaps indirectly, in sympathetic readers. I notice that some of the commenters here take a much broader view in their selections, and Jaynes would be very broad. <BR/><BR/>John also has selected only books published within the last decade. However, a couple people here have recommended Bertrand Russell's <I>Why I Am Not a Christian</I> and other older material. I would go back a half-century to a book that had a profound effect on my journey from Christianity to disbelief: <I>The Faith of a Heretic</I> by Walter Kaufmann. True, it deals mainly with Christianity rather than directly attacking theism, but it is deeply polemical and effective against the latter as well. I don't understand in what sense a book like that can be deemed out of date; it seems to me that only its philosophical efficacy in undermining theism should be relevant. <BR/><BR/>My selections:<BR/><I>The Faith of a Heretic</I> by Walter Kaufmann (<A HREF="http://www.archive.org/details/faithofaheretic012669mbp" REL="nofollow">available online</A>)<BR/><I>The Miracle of Theism</I> by John Mackie<BR/><I>The End of Faith</I> by Sam Harris<BR/><I>Why I Became an Atheist</I> by John Loftus (not currying favor here, but I just read it and am very impressed by its arguments, method and scope)<BR/><I>Divine Hiddeness and Human Reason</I> by John Schellenberg<BR/><I>The Portable Atheist</I> edited by Christopher Hitchens<BR/><I>Atheism: A Philosophical Justification</I>by Michael Martin<BR/>Honorable Mention in fiction category:<BR/><I>Code of the Lifemaker</I> by James HoganAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21219785.post-16543911038293053972009-02-14T18:47:00.000-05:002009-02-14T18:47:00.000-05:00That last post wasn't mine.That last post wasn't mine.Andrewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10659212150994482317noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21219785.post-11214733053899586412009-02-14T18:45:00.000-05:002009-02-14T18:45:00.000-05:00John, you are very angry.It makes me think of that...John, you are very angry.<BR/><BR/>It makes me think of that Sripper story, and why she was so pissed.<BR/><BR/>Do you have a small penis?<BR/><BR/>If so, that would explain it.<BR/><BR/>But don't feel bad. Thats just genetics, not something you did.Emanuel Goldsteinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02653303041185240250noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21219785.post-31507612505037893672009-02-14T18:42:00.000-05:002009-02-14T18:42:00.000-05:00Thanks John for acknowledging that the threat exis...Thanks John for acknowledging that the threat exists! I've taken screen shots and have saved the HTML code, so even if you remove these posts I'll have them somewhere else safe.Andrewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10659212150994482317noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21219785.post-46096283666932541022009-02-14T18:21:00.000-05:002009-02-14T18:21:00.000-05:00You really have sunk to a new low John.You really have sunk to a new low John.Andrewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10659212150994482317noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21219785.post-45405301735136694412009-02-14T18:11:00.000-05:002009-02-14T18:11:00.000-05:00The other people here won't know it, but YOU and I...The other people here won't know it, but YOU and I both do. You have been tampering with posts all along.<BR/><BR/>God only knows the extent to how much you have done! LOL!Emanuel Goldsteinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02653303041185240250noreply@blogger.com