DC Book Club: Reviewing Dinesh D'Souza's "What's So Great About Christianity."

Dinesh D'Souza's book What's So Great About Christianity? just arrived today, and I'm planning to evaluate it to see how good it is, since several important people are saying it's an important book. I plan on reviewing it in several Blog entries. Let's call this the first ever DC Book Club Selection. I got it delivered in just a few days, so if you want to buy it and read along, I recommend that you do so. Together let's see what he has to offer. [FYI: I really don't care if you disgaree with anything else he's written prior to this book, because his other views are basically irrelevant to his case here].

Here are my first impressions:

You can see for yourself in the table of contents that he covers a lot of ground, including whether Christianity will survive in the future, how it affects the western world, its relationship to science, its intelligent design hypothesis, its defense of the miraculous, the morality of the Inquisition vs the morality of atheists, and who has the best foundation for morality. He's obviously well-read too, which means I will probably learn a few things, which is always a goal of mine.

Lacking in his book is a discussion of Biblical criticism, any detailed argument on behalf of the bodily resurrection of Jesus, or for the inspiration of the Bible, and he only deals with the design argument for God's existence. Well, I suppose he can't cover everything. He's entitled to assume some of these things, I suppose, since it seems his book is attempting to answer the arguments of Dawkins, Harris, Dennett, and Hitchens, who themselves don't offer any detailed arguments in these other areas. Fair enough. Although, I should point out that even if he's correct about most everything else in his book, and I very much doubt it, unless it can be shown that we can trust the Bible as the inspired word of God, and unless we can be sure Jesus actually arose from the dead, his whole case falls to the ground.

Okay so far?

Now just a brief note about "A Note On the Interpretation of Scripture." (pp. xi-xii)

D'Souza distinguishes between a "crude literalism" reading of the Bible from a "cafeteria" style reading where we reject the parts we find objectionable and embrace the parts we like. Since the Bible operates on a multitude of levels, like metaphor and parable, we shouldn't approach it in a crudely literal way. And on this point he's absolutely correct. However, few people, if any, embrace such a crudely literal approach to the Bible. Even if Origen did castrate himself based upon a crudely literal reading of Matt. 19:12, who else reads it this way today? Maybe snake handlers do in some sense, but even they don't do so consistently since they live and breathe in the 21 century like the rest of us. Moreover, he seems blithely unaware that all Christians pick and choose the parts of the Bible they like from the parts they don't like, and they have been doing so from the beginning. The only difference between Christians on this is how much they do so, much like on a continuum, and the question left unanswered is why they do so in some areas but don't do so in other areas.

The other extreme, which he rejects, "says the Bible should be read through the lens of contemporary secular assumptions." Now here I see trouble ahead, for I don't think we can objectively read the Bible, or any historical document, without using our present assumptions. We are, after all, children of our times, and as children of are times we are not likely to be able to rise about them, as Voltaire pointed out. The question for us is which set of assumptions should we use to interpret the Bible, and I don't see why we should assume that Christianity is true, or that supernaturalism is the case, in order to read the Bible properly. If, for instance, we begin reading the Bible from Christian assumptions, then the question I want to have answered is where does the Christian gain those assumptions in the first place if they don't get them from the Bible? To me this whole approach is circular reasoning.

He claims to hold a middle ground between these extremes. He wants to read the Bible not literally, nor liberally, but rather contextually. He writes, "Only by examining the text in relation to the whole can we figure out how a particular line or passage is best understood." Then he suggests "whether you regard the Bible as inspired or not, read the text in context for what it is actually trying to say." He says this will be clearer as he proceeds.

This reveals more trouble ahead, I think. Even though his approach sounds on the surface to be true, and is partially true, I question where this will take us. His approach is partially true since we must read every passage in the Bible according to its context in order to understand it. Since the basic meaning resides in the sentence (not the word), then in order to understand any sentence we must also understand the context for that sentence in the paragraph, and onward up to the purpose of any book in the Bible itself. But there is more. For any book in the Bible there is a wider context. There is the cultural milieu of each book in the life of the initial readers which must be understood. But that wider context is difficult to understand and also debated today. And there is the whole problem of knowing what purposes the last editor/author of each of the books in the Bible were, since even conservative scholars admit the gospels, for instance, were compiled by editors (or redactors). This means we need to also adequately date these books, know where they were written from, and even who the final authors were. Furthermore, there were pseudonymous additions to the texts long after it left the hands of the final editor/author, along with copyists who made their changes, sometimes for theological reasons, along with the whole process of canonization which affirmed which books belong in the Bible.

On one level we might be able to understand a Biblical passage given only the texts themselves, but that’s a different thing entirely from trying to truly understand what the Biblical editor/authors meant in their day and time. Furthermore, just understanding what they wrote isn't enough, for we must go on to evaluate whether or not what they said was true. So not only do I fear D'Souza is skipping a few contextual steps, but even when I have understood what they wrote I can still question what they said. This is the subject of his book. We'll see how it goes.

19 comments:

Stargazer said...

Since my book budget is quite limited, I'll be waiting to get this from the library. Out of curiosity, I did go read the reviews on amazon, and it was interesting to see how many object to his book based on his 'liberal' take on evolution. I guess theistic evolution and ID don't mix. :-)

I look forward to the discussion here.

Evie said...

I don't think I will add D'ouza's book to my already long list of books to read. At this point in my deconversion, I'm more interested in catching up on secular readings than I am in reading more evangelical/fundamental propaganda. I'm breaking away from that stuff and continue to get more of it than I want since I'm still attending church regularly with my family. I look forward to reading your review and the comments of other readers.

Anonymous said...

Just like Christian apologists read skeptical literature to respond to us, so also I like reading the best of their writings to respond to them.

I emailed the author to let him know of my review. I would surely appreciate it if he responded from time to time.

GordonBlood said...

Being a university student I probly wont buy the book itself as im sure its very similar to other (though im sure well written) Christian apologetics books. Really the only other thing I have to say is that he probly did not wish to write on the ressurection simply because thats such a large (historically speaking) topic. I suppose its comparable to those atheists who do not include the popular arguments like the problem of evil in their texts because theres just so much literature on the subject. Oh and Evie, do be careful in labelling people, D'Souza to my knowledge is a Catholic (not an evangelical of any stripe) and most certainly not a fundamentalist.

Evie said...

GordonBlood:
Your correction is noted and appreciated. Nevertheless, I continue to be uninterested in Christian apologetics of any kind right now.

M. Tully said...

John,

I agree with almost your entire post. But, (yes, there had to be a but) the part about context. Biblical writing, taken in context, is an absolute excellent way to discover how an early iron age civilization tried to make sense of the world. It has many themes common to both peoples living to the east and west of it with many of the same explanations. As an historical document, again taken in context, it is as every bit helpful to us as Gilgamesh, The Iliad and Shakespeare.

Tully

P.S. to Gordonblood,

You stated that "the ressurection simply because thats such a large (historically speaking) topic". Actually, historically speaking, "the resurrection" is a single sourced, totally unconfirmed event. Had you said "'belief' in the resurrection is a large (historically speaking) topic", then your statement would have been credible.

Steven Carr said...

' "Only by examining the text in relation to the whole can we figure out how a particular line or passage is best understood."'

So D'Souza basically claims Jews cannot understand the Old Testament because they do not examine it in relation to the New Testament.

By the very definition of D'Souza's rule, Jews are wrong from the word go.

that atheist guy said...

Last night D'Souza debated Hitchens here in NYC. I posted some rough notes and comments on my blog. Click on my name to see it. A video will be available soon I think.

Karl Betts said...

John - I happened to catch D'Souza on CNN last night. He's playing a role that sort of mediates the evangelical community for political outcomes. He's proof that the "religious right" has gotten more sophisticated, but it still makes the mistake of trying to garner a "christian consensus" as if that is the basis of our nation's heritage. He appears to be a very winsome fellow and I find him more palitable than Religious Right representatives before Ralph Reed. It isn't going to work in this generation anymore. Post modern audiences, it seems to me, are not interested in reconstructing old right wing values based on the divine. They are interested in deconstructing the system and the traditional elements that go with the system.

He will not sell his ideas on behalf of evangelicalism very effectively if he publically take the Bible to task. It is whole lot sexier to debate heritics and athieists than it is challenge the Bible, right?

Anonymous said...

Well, I have read the book and his arguments are reasoned, deep, and compelling. If you are unfamiliar with Kant, Nietzsche, and Schopenaur and their reflections on natural law, humanity (or lack thereof), and Christianity you may have problems following Mr. D'Souza's arguments. An excellent overview site can be accessed at

http://www.philosophypages.com/hy/

I hold a PhD in immunology and his ability to engage the scientism of Dawkins and Pinker is impressive for someone not formally trained as a scientist.

In any case, I'm less interested in what you folks think about the book and much more interested in how you engage his arguments.

Cheers,

Michael

zilch said...

I don't think I'll be buying this book any time soon, if this is a fair sample of D'Souza's reasoning. And as far as Kant, Nietzsche, and Schopenhauer go- well, they are interesting, but so what? What relevance do they have for twenty-first century morals?

Emanuel Goldstein said...

Just let you all know, I won't be buying John's new book either.

It can't contain much new, and there are plenty of other atheist books out there to review by much more accomplished authors.

Anonymous said...

Zilch and Andrew -- I guess that's yet another two commentators that refuse to engage Mr. D'Souza. So far only Mr. Loftus has promised to read the book.

I don't mean this in a mean-spirited way, but why are you people reading this blog if you're not interested in debunking Christianity?

Sincerely,

zilch said...

Michael- if I had world enough and time, not reading D'Souza would be a crime. As it is, having read two of his editorials on AOL, I think I catch his drift: at least sufficiently, so that I don't want anything to do with making him richer.

I will watch his debates with Hitchens and Shermer, when I get home where it doesn't cost anything. And I'm planning to "engage" him at AOL, although I notice he doesn't deign to reply to commenters. But if the link I posted, and this little diatribe about how atheists don't care about anything, are what his book is like, there's little point in engagement.

WoundedEgo said...

The case FOR Christianity is excellent: "What is the alternative?"

D'Souza is the brightest mind I have encountered FOR Christianity... he makes sense!

But he argues for the barest bones of religion - not for the veracity of the Bible. THAT is not defensible. He ADMITS to the progressive nature of religious thought... so who cares?

The problem is that when one shows that a theism or religion is somewhat reasonable, one feels that one's SPECIFIC religion is vindicated. This is not the case.

The Bible is not made real by a successful showing in a debate about whether or not religion has some positive side effects!

Bill Ross
http://bibleshockers.blogspot.com

M. Tully said...

Michael,

From one who has read Kant and Nietzsche, I still find D’Souza’s arguments very weak. He always reverts to a straw man of “scientists think they can explain everything, they can’t, so you should instead listen to me. Yet, he never answers the question of, “ Why I should listen to him?” As for claims of Dawkins and Pinker being adherents of “scientism”, I have two questions. One, what is your definition of scientism; and two, as an immunologist, when peoples’ lives are in your hands, do you rely on the germ theory of disease and empirical evidence or do you resort to some other “way of knowing” (just curious in case I’m ever ill and your assigned to the case)? BTW, if you have time, may I suggest some additional philosophers with a natural law bent, Cicero, Spinoza, Bacon, Grotius and Dewey.

Tully

Karl Betts said...

As to the question: And as far as Kant, Nietzsche, and Schopenhauer go- well, they are interesting, but so what? What relevance do they have for twenty-first century morals?

For those of us trained in the philosophical disciplines (to one degree or another) it would be important for many of us to see that D'Souza can discuss some of the key historical contributions to the subject. St. Augustine and St. Thomas did the same thing, and clearly D'Souza comes out of this philosphical tradition while engaging his audience.

I do appreciate the question over D'Souza's overall purpose. Will it be to contribute something new to the discussion of how his presentation Christianity (Protestant or Catholic) can be plausible in the modern world. Or is this just another re-hash of scholasticism, in 21st Century garb?

My sense is that he's giving a solid overview of reasons to believe for a semi-popular audience who might be receptive to this kind of apologetic, in the face of all of the evidentialist stuff that is so popular out there.

Tommykey said...

I don't plan to read his book, but I get the impression that he rips off a lot of his arguments from Rodney Stark, in that Christianity promoted science and discovery and so forth.

Kristen said...

I ordered D'Souza's book from Amazon and look forward to reading it, and I will go ahead and warn you that I plan on reading it (as I do everything) with a Christian worldview. I do find it interesting, however, to hear what others have to say about it who do not share my viewpoint. I do agree with some points that you brought up, but then again, they're so vague at this point that it's hard for me to disagree. I did want to ask you about one point:

"Furthermore, there were pseudonymous additions to the texts long after it left the hands of the final editor/author, along with copyists who made their changes, sometimes for theological reasons, along with the whole process of canonization which affirmed which books belong in the Bible."

I just wanted to know where you have gotten your information in regards to this statement. I was not aware of any solid proof that anything from the Bible was changed for "theological reasons". Those who have read the Davinci Code may argue that when Constantine legalized Christianity, there were changes made to the gospel, but I don't believe there is actual proof behind that. I know very little about that subject, though, so if there is some sort of source where you are getting that information, let me know. Otherwise, I refuse to accept it.