Eddie Tabash on the Presidential Election

My friend Eddie Tabash is one of the leading defenders of the separation of church and state in America today. You can see him argue for it here. I think this is an idea that should be accepted whether a person is religious or not. So although I've declared politics off limits here in the past, since this is a very important election year and since the separation of church and state is so very important to me, I'll be posting a few things from time to time that I find interesting in this year's Presidential election.

From the Secular Humanism Online News

Vol.4 No.9

The Danger of the Religious Right in this Presidential Election
By Edward Tabash.
The fact that Barack Obama and John McCain had their first joint appearance, sort of, at an evangelical church has ominous implications. It shows that both candidates know that evangelicals are still recognized as the largest single voting block in these elections cycles. This is bolstered by the way McCain’s unabashed embracing of the religious right agenda only helped him in the national polls. Obama’s more measured and somewhat hesitant way of answering questions regarding abortion and gay rights did not sell with biblical literalist voters who want an absolute commitment that the next president of the United States will be devoted to infusing religious dogma into the law of the land, under which we all must live.

McCain’s choice of Sarah Palin, a truly inexperienced first-term governor of a remote and sparsely populated state, primarily because she is a Christian fundamentalist, shows that the religious right has not lost power but has more political might than ever before. Most news reports have claimed, and McCain has never denied it, that he would have preferred the pro-choice Orthodox Jewish Democrat Joe Lieberman as his running mate. However, the Christian right nixed this because Lieberman supports abortion rights. If McCain dies in office, Lieberman as the new president would put church-state separationists on the Supreme Court, regardless of his own frequently overblown religious rhetoric.

As secularists, however, our concern cannot be with the rhetoric of a campaign. Our concern can only be with the Supreme Court. We shouldn’t care what a candidate says in order to get elected in a nation where religious voters are still the most powerful plurality. We should rather focus on the type of justices that a candidate would appoint to the Supreme Court. Right now, with a shift of even one vote on the Court, we would lose, entirely, government neutrality in matters of religion, which is the core of church-state separation.

During the joint appearance at Saddleback Church, McCain stated unambiguously that he views life as beginning at the moment of conception. If this view prevails not only is abortion outlawed but so are all post-fertilization means of birth control. When the anti-abortion movement was initially gaining power from about 1973 onward, there were some anti-abortion members of the United States Senate who would not ban anything that destroyed a fertilized egg prior to implantation. Republican Mark Hatfield of Oregon was an example of this type of politician. With the McCain view, many birth-control pills and all IUDs would be banned because they prevent an already fertilized egg from implanting on the uterine wall. The only means of contraception that would still remain legal would be those that prevented the union of sperm and egg.

Some people are very optimistic about an impending expansion of secularism in American culture. I am afraid that I do not share this optimism. The only way that secularism stands a chance is if we continue to have in place a Supreme Court that continuously says, as has been the case since 1947, that no branch of government can favor the believer over the nonbeliever. Once a new Court majority would allow branches of government to favor belief, collectively, over nonbelief, the floodgates of religion-favoring legislation would open in virtually every state.

The ideal would be to achieve a political culture in which, if someone declares themselves to be a resolute supporter of secular government and church-state separation, we could not predict from that, alone, if the person were otherwise a liberal or a conservative. Someone can have very right-wing views on many issues and still demand secular government and even be a total nonbeliever. There is no internal inconsistency, for instance, in being a member of the National Rifle Association and opposing the agenda of the religious right.There is no internal inconsistency between supporting the war in Iraq and being an atheist, as Christopher Hitchens demonstrates. However, we are a long way from the goal of attaining a society in which support for secular government is a frequently seen universal view. It is our task to make sure that such a society becomes a reality.
Edward Tabash is Chair of the First Amendment Task Force, a project of the Council for Secular Humanism.

13 comments:

Harry H. McCall said...

For those who watched the Republican Convention on PBS (which gave total coverage), after McCain gave his acceptance speech and the convention ended some fifteen minutes latter the audio to the floor of the convention hall was left open.

I could not believe what I was hearing! I heard a closing prayer where things were asked “in Jesus’ name”, plus right before the audio was cut, this “convocation prayer” ended with all on the convention floor citing the Lord’s Prayer. I was not sure I was listening to a political convention or a Christian church service.

While the Democrats have chosen a path that allows individual choice on abortion, birth control, gray rights and other issues, the Christian right wants to make the United States into a “Holy Roman Empire” where the constitution and the Bible go hand in hand (with the Bible leading).

When I brought up to a conservative Christian today that this country has freedom of religion for all faiths some of which included Hindus and Moslems; I was told:

“They should be kicked out. This is a Christian nation!”

Unknown said...

I think that this is a problem deliberately fostered by the kind of partisan line drawing that the republicans in particular like to engage in.

The right wing likes to create a false decision. Either you are for an idea or you are against it. Your stance on that position makes you either a democrat or a republican. All finesse is discarded, all grey areas removed. Its either yes or no. Are you for abortion or not? Are you christian or not.

An NRA member should be able to be an atheist, christian, muslim or whatever. But the republicans have fostered a theme of
"democrats want to take your guns away"
And so the NRA becomes republican.
Its the same with the churches
"The democrats want to take your school prayer/creationism/bible away"
And so the evangelicals swing to the right.

But of course not all NRA members are repubs, and not all christians are right wing conservatives. But the meme is pushed constantly "republicans have the christian vote and the gun vote. Democrats don't"

I do think that liberal christians have lost their voice to the noisy fundamentalists and that they need to claim this voice back.

Anonymous said...

I used to be an evangelical pastor, but I am no longer a Christian. You are not doing your position any good by demanding that all politicians be secular. You are demanding that they abandon who they are, which will never work. If you want to succeed, try arguing the issue instead of arguing against religion!

For instance, what is your argument for why life does not begin at conception? Or, concerning homosexual marriage, why do you think children do not deserve the right to have a mom and a dad? As a nonbeliever, to me these concerns are still very important, whether they come from a secular or religious viewpoint or not. You won't get anywhere by attacking religion. Try attacking the ideas themselves, as many people hold them for non-religious reasons.

Regardless, it is unfair to demand that type of separation of church and state. It is not what the founders had in mind. Just read the Declaration of Independence or the inscriptions on every government building and statue.

Anonymous said...

ben, were you writing in criticism of what I said? Do you know what the separation of church and state entails? Check the links out where Tabash explains it. Like I said, it is something that everyone can agree on regardless of whether or not they are religious.

Harry H. McCall said...

Ben Mcfarlane Said:
“I used to be an evangelical pastor, but I am no longer a Christian.”

Re: Just who are you kidding. Get Real and be honest Rev. Mcfarlane!

Jeffrey Amos said...

I'm with Harry.

"It is not what the founders had in mind."

Does "Ben" not realize how transparent his Christianese is?

lee said...

The christians who are referred to as the founders of this nation, i.e. English Puritans, Scottish Presbyterians and Pilgrims, were not Americans.......they were English colonist. The founders of America, i.e. Payne, Adams, Jefferson and so forth, were products of the enlightenment with a clear memory of the abuses imposed by the church.

Harry H. McCall said...

“Regardless, it is unfair to demand that type of separation of church and state. It is not what the founders had in mind. Just read the Declaration of Independence or the inscriptions on every government building and statue.”

Rev. McFarlane, people (Founders) came to America for freedom from religious control. Freedom from the Papal states / countries. Freedom from not being persecuted for no belonging to the correct Christian religion of which King or Queen was in power at the time. Examples in England Queen Mary (Catholic) or Elizabeth Protestant).

The Founders NEVER had in mind (lets be frank here) a “nigger” / slave running for the office of the President of the U.S.

The Founders NEVER had in mind Child Labor Laws.

The Founders NEVER had in mind Women Voters.

The Founders NEVER had in mind true freedom of religion (in most state one could not run for office if you were not a member of the right denomination. Example: In New England one had to sign a form before running for political office than a man was a member in good standing of a Congregationalist Church).

We have pagan (still religious yet) goddesses in the U.S. Capital and the Statue of Liberty is a “pagan goddess of freedom”.

As in the ancient world, so to today in the United States, our problem is not religion per se, but Christianity itself, which (if allowed to continue unchecked) would force the will of the Bible (New Testament mostly) one the masses before turning on itself to root out all “Christian heresy” and establish “Biblical Orthodoxy” (Whatever the hell that is!).

We sure hell don’t need to look back, but forward!

Don Martin said...

The problem with partisan politics is the same thing with christian conservative/evagelical religion...the "either/or" syndrome. I have struggled, as an agnositic/atheist, with feeling like I have to be pro-choice, or anti-war, or pro-gay marriage (and for those who strain at gnats...I am pro-life, anti-war, and pro-gay marriage).

But that's not the point. The point is that - whether atheist or christian - it seems that not many of us are "free thinkers." We come to a conclusion about something and demand that everybody else draw that same conclusion and if they don't then they are not what I am, i.e., atheist, christian, republican, democrat.

Freedom of religion means freedom of thought. It means having the endorsment of the ruling body that makes policy and enforces law that you may pursue any religious observance...or no religious observance...and that you may pursue any philosophical or intellectual endeavor and not have your rights under the law abridged or denied. I guess even pro-murderers can have the freedom to think what they choose, and express it, so long as they do not violate the social contract and the law.

The religious right is trying to influence this election, no doubt. So is the religious left. So is Islam. If anyone thinks for a minute that the religious left is not trying to influence democratic candidates (ie, Jeremiah Wright, liberation theology...which after all is said and done is THEOLOGY none the less. Wright and Flegler and others believe in their version of God as much as evangelical christians...and they want government to back their religious views with legal and police authority as much as does the evangelical right).

If we are going to be a truly secular society, then we must challenge religious dogma in the public sphere on all sides of a social issue. "Free thinkers" means that we don't let the republicans or democrats force us into an idealogical corner.

Harry H. McCall said...

I constantly hear evangelical preachers supporting the GOP platform on the radio by
denouncing “government give away programs” and any taxes that support the poor and takes away from the rich.

The parable of the Rich Man and Lazarus (Luke 16: 19 – 31) is not about Hell (as many evangelist love to preach on it in that the words “salvation”; “Heaven”; “sin”; “forgiveness” never occur in it). It is simply a “Social Gospel” attacking the rich for NOT giving to the poor.

Also, since Jesus thought the “End Times” were about to come (where many living then would see Jesus return in the clouds of glory Acts 1), followers of Jesus should give away all they have and only trust Jesus.

The contradiction comes with Paul who is the author of the “Protestant Work Ethic” in that Paul states if one does not work, neither shall he eat.

It appears the Democrats are more "Christ like" while the Republicans are like Paul.

Russ said...

Ben McFarlane, when you said, "You are not doing your position any good by demanding that all politicians be secular," I wonder if you realize that each and every civil servant in this country, from school board members to military personnel to Presidents and Supreme Court Justices, in their oath of office makes an explicit vow to conduct their official duties as a secularist. They all make one common vow when they take their oaths of office, in which, paraphrased slightly, they all commit, "I promise first and foremost to defend The Constitution of the United States of America which applies equally to all citizens of this country." True, most of them mindlessly mouth the words as a symbolic jesture, and conduct the duties of their offices according to their own desires or the urgings of influential special interest groups, but the promise they have made is that of executing their office as a secularist. That most consider their religion to have priority over the Constitution, is a testament to the corrupting power of religion: religionists cannot be trusted even though they make a public vow and sign their name to that oath. Any public official who does not conduct him or her self as a secularist is a liar as they have violated their oath.

Further, you said, "You are demanding that they abandon who they are, which will never work." That is not the case. Actually read The Constitution of the United States of America(http://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/constitution.overview.html). The demand for secularism is explicit in the first sentence.


"We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America."


As is often the case when I read this amazing document, right this minute, I am weeping.

"We the people of the United States," Ben, all 300,000,000 of us. Not just you, not just me, not just Mr. Loftus, not just Christians, Hindus or atheists. These words apply to all of us, and, as such, "we the people," that is, all of us together, cannot possibly fulfill this preamble's mission statement if those promising to uphold and defend it, lie and subsequently behave preferentially toward their favored group. How do we establish justice if the highest law of the land is not applied uniformly?

Indeed, justice would have no meaning whatsoever if a Christian judge of the Catholic persuasion meted out sentences based on religious allegiance: all Catholics are free to go, guilty or not; all non-believers get a life sentence for all court appearances, guilty or not; and, others will be sentenced based on their attitudes about abortion and contraception.

Realize, Ben, that secularism is a means whereby Christians are protected from other Christians since many a True Christian hates all other non-True Christians. Secularism protects Muslims from Christians, Christians from atheists and so on. Secularism does not mean anti-religious; it means that every member of the general public gets the full respect due from the holder of a public office who has promised to put aside his own personal biases, attitudes, and feelings while carrying out his official duties.

Before running for office, a potential candidate should actually read The Constitution of the United States of America and fully understand what is being required of them. If they cannot accept the secularist requirement, they should not run. If their religion has precedence over the Consititution, then they should not run.

You said, "You are not doing your position any good by demanding that all politicians be secular." Are you suggesting that we should no longer expect someone to live up to their promise freely made to uphold and defend The Constitution of the United States of America?

"Regardless, it is unfair to demand that type of separation of church and state. It is not what the founders had in mind." On the contrary, Ben, it is exactly what they had in mind. They all knew how destructive religion is, so, aside from guaranteeing that people can engage in religious nonsense if they choose, they intentionally chose to leave out all religious references from the document that sets the cornerstone for our nation.

"You won't get anywhere by attacking religion." Religion needs to be attacked. Religion-based stupidity is adversely affecting all of our lives.

You stated, "Just read the Declaration of Independence." Ben, the principle author of the Declaration of Independence, Thomas Jefferson, was a master wordsmith, and, as such, he tailored the language in it to its rather small audience, the King of England. His use of the word, "Creator," for instance, would have made his target more receptive, given that the king would have considered himself to have been enthroned by divine right. But, Ben, even in the Declaration there is much to support the secularist ideal: "we hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal." All men are equal, Ben, not some sectarian "chosen people."

The Constitution of the United States of America is an assurance of equality and justice and therefore is an inherently secular document, Ben, so, until such time as it is ripped from the National Archives, crumpled up and thrown away, we must all accept that The Constitution of the United States of America is an inherently secular document which demands that those who have promised to operate under its umbrella will do so as a secularist.

BahramtheRed said...

Also three other problems with the founding father logic:

Most of those founding fathers where members of the hellfire club. A group dedicated to commiting sin to see if god would smack them down (it didn't).

Jefferson and some of the others wrote books showing exactly what they though, and it wasn't a desire of a chrisitian country where all others should fall before them.

Thirdly, While wasington was still alive the US goverment ratiffied the Federalist Papers, which stated without any fan fare, obscurity, or any thing other than a straight forward answer said that the United States of America is not a Chrisitian Country. That makes it a country where a lot of chrisitans live. Big difference.

Northlander said...

"The Constitution of the United States of America is an assurance of equality and justice and therefore is an inherently secular document, Ben, so, until such time as it is ripped from the National Archives, crumpled up and thrown away, we must all accept that The Constitution of the United States of America is an inherently secular document which demands that those who have promised to operate under its umbrella will do so as a secularist."

Aren't you painting with too broad a brush? Do you think that what the Constitution requires of a congressman in the way of secularism is also what the Constitution requires of, say, a state legislator?