Either Choose Science or God, You Cannot Have Both

I think for a blog post I pretty much nailed it, arguing that science would not be possible if there were a miraculous intervening God. But since science does work then there isn't a miraculous intervening God. So choose ye this day: Either science isn't possible because there is a miraculous intervening God, or science works precisely because there isn't a miraculous intervening God.

Christian philosopher Victor Reppert objects of course, on two grounds as far as I can tell:

Why Science Has No Need of God and What This Implies

Pierre-Simon Laplace (1749 – 1827) is remembered as one of the greatest scientists of all time. He's referred to as the French Newton or the Newton of France. When Napoleon had asked why he hadn't mentioned God in his discourse on the orbits of Saturn and Jupiter, he is quoted as saying: "I had no need of that hypothesis." That best describes science. It doesn't need that hypothesis. That's how science should work too, for if science is to work at all it shouldn't depend on the God-hypothesis. More importantly, if there is a God who intervenes in our world then science cannot work at all. We can see this quite easily by contrasting sectarian pseudoscience with science itself. The implications should be obvious.

How Many Religious People Are Really Mentally Ill?

God Told Her To Drive 100 Mph and Blow Horn, Spirit Guide

"God told one woman, Melissa Miller, the permission to drive 100 mph according to the police report. She told the Fort Pierce, Florida cops that the Lord was her spirit guide.

Miller was also banging on the car horn long and hard because of “the Lord telling me to do it.”

Are the New Atheists Suffering From the Dunning-Kruger Effect?

That's the question Philip Jensen asks. Jensen opines regarding Richard Dawkins:

[T]he less competent you are the more confident you are likely to be. To launch out on a world-wide campaign on subjects over which you know little and have researched less – to say nothing of intentionally not studying because you do not believe – is less than acceptable as genuine public debate or academic discussion, to say nothing of failing in the art of war.

Victor Reppert links to this and said, "Oh, I forgot. It's just believers who suffer from cognitive pathologies." Sarcasm with a point, right? Well then, what does Vic say about the real impact of the Dunning-Kruger Effect?

The Evolution of Apologetics and Concepts of God

The Disappearing Atheist Who Holds a Degree in Religion

“The average total cost of attendance in 2010–11 for first-time, full-time students living on campus and paying in-state tuition was $20,100 at public 4-year institutions and $39,800 at private nonprofit 4-year institutions.”

Never Take "No" For An Answer!

There are certainly times when "no" means "no" so don't misunderstand what I'm about to say. That being said, never take no for an answer when the truth is on your side, or when there is hope you can get what you want if you hold firm and are persistent. Knowing the difference makes all the difference. Some people persist when they are not in the right and/or when there is no glimmer of hope at success. But I regularly get what most others give up trying for. No force is used. I'm never obnoxious. I don't even raise my voice. I just hold firm and am persistent, if needed. The more I'm in the right and the more I want something then the more often I get what I want. Actually, I succeed so many times I cannot remember one single failure when these conditions are met. This is one of the keys to who I am, so let me explain by recounting a trip to a store today on Black Friday.

Happy Thanksgiving Day!

I'm thankful for my freedom, health, family and friends, especially that my wife and I reunited in January after breaking up in 2011. I'm thankful to live long enough to see technological advances like the computer, the internet, smartphones and tablets. In my day we had party lines that had to first connect to an operator using rotary dial corded phones. To see what life was like the year I was born check this out. I'm also pleased to see the advancements in science with regard to neurology, cosmology, evolution, and so forth. I'm especially thankful that in this era I am not a Christian apologist. ;-)

Two Scenarios From Dr. Matt McCormick and His Conclusions

Scenario A: God isn’t real and we fail to find good evidence for supernatural beings.

Belief in situation A: irrational.
Agnosticism in situation A: irrational.
Disbelief in situation A: reasonable/rational.

Scenario B: God is Real, but Hiding.

Belief in situation B: irrational.
Agnosticism in situation B: not an epistemically responsible position.
Disbelief in situation B: reasonable/rational. Enjoy.

The Bible: Morally Bankrupt or Totally Reliable?

Dr. Hector Avalos is mentioned in an online article for The Chronicle of Higher Education with this as the title.

You Can’t Judge an Argument By Its Conclusion

Barbara A. Drescher taught courses in quantitative/experimental research methods and topics in cognitive psychology at California State University, Northridge. She wrote a provocative post where she argues as follows:

The tendency to judge conclusions based on current beliefs is a product of how our brains evolved and developed – a side-effect of what makes us successful organisms. It is human nature, it is wrong and must be overcome if one is to be consistently rational. This problem pops up in a host of cognitive tasks and is a manifestation of the most influential of human frailties: the confirmation bias. This makes it extremely resistant to correction, especially in real-world contexts.

Reason is about the validity of arguments, so judging a conclusion as valid or invalid without examining the argument is itself an irrational act. Without the argument, your only yardstick is your own belief about the truth of that conclusion. Link.

I am convinced that confirmation bias runs amuck in the minds of most all believers. They judge the merits of any argument based on whether they agree with the conclusion. I am also convinced that apologists who defend Christianity start with their conclusions and then construct arguments to support them. So I am convinced that to embrace and defend the Christian faith is irrational. I cannot even hope to convince most Christians of this, since they aren't usually reasoned into their faith in the first place. But let me beat my head against the wall one more time:

Do You Want Some Fun? More From Robert Ingersoll

The Reverend De Witt Talmage, head of the Presbyterian Church in America, was so incensed by Ingersoll, that he devoted six sermons denouncing him as "The Great Blasphemer". Ingersoll answered these seriously, and then followed up by satirizing the teachings of the Reverend in what he called The Talmagian Catechism. Here is Part 1 of 3, as selected by Julian Haydon.

Atheists Want Banner Over Nativity Scene

Controversy Surrounds Religious Display in Texas

Quote of the Day, by articulett

No matter the horror, all religious folks seem fine with the fact that their supposedly omnipotent deity acts like he doesn't exist at all. On occasion though, he appears to step in and help them find car keys or help their sports teams to win games.

Does Morality Come From God Or Are We Born With Morality?

It's a question people have asked for as long as there have been people: are human beings inherently good? Are we born with a sense of morality or do we arrive blank slates, waiting for the world to teach us right from wrong? Or could it be worse: do we start out nasty, selfish devils, who need our parents, teachers, and religions to whip us into shape?

Babies help unlock the origins of morality on CBS’s 60 Minutes.

Frans de Waal on Monkey Morality

Final Installment of "Some Reasons Why" by Robert Ingersoll

This piece contains a masterful evisceration of the fundamentals of Christianity. Here are samples from Julian Haydon:

An Atheist Sermon by Jerry DeWitt

Jerry DeWitt is a former Pentecostal minister turned atheist and now the director the organization “Recovering From Religion."

Do We Need Religious Faith to be Happy?

The evidence says no. Evidence, that's what's important.

Science, It Works Bitches, by Matt McCormick

Link.

Mark Twain Quote

Remembering and Honoring Professor Stuart C. Hackett

Stuart was born on November 2, 1925 and passed away on October 17, 2012. Paul Copan, a former student of his and President of the Evangelical Philosophical Society, wrote a very deserving tribute to him which can be read here. Stu was my professor as well, a sometimes flamboyant individual with the taste for speaking very long sentences filled with tough words to chew on.

Just like Paul Copan, my first class at Trinity Evangelical Divinity School was taken with Stu, and it was the same one, Religious Epistemology. I had taken that class in the Fall of 1982 three years before Copan, only I argued against Hackett's dualistic rational-empiricism epistemology and decided afterward to take as many classes with William Lane Craig as I could (which ended up being half of the hours required for my Th.M. degree in the Philosophy of Religion). My own recollections of Stu, written almost five years ago, can be read here.

In Copan's tribute he lists several Christian scholars/educators who also studied under Hackett besides himself: William Lane Craig, Stephen Evans, Jay Wood, Mark McLeod-Harrison, Chad Meister, Mark Linville, Mark Mittelberg, and Nicholas Merriwether. So I'm in good company. While at Trinity I also studied under the late Kenneth Kantzer, the former editor of Christianity Today known as the Dean of Evangelicalism, and the late Paul Feinberg, a somewhat towering figure among evangelicals at the time, although he didn't write that much. Stu will be missed, just like Kantzer and Feinberg before him. It's too bad they will never know they were wrong. They will never know they were on the wrong side of history.

In any case, there is one thing you should know about me. You may think I'm wrong, but I am clearly not ignorant. That option is not available to you. I have studied with the best and the brightest, including the amazing James D. Strauss, whom I credit with my anti-apologetics. I just take his apologetics and reverse it. Former students of his include James F. Sennett, Terry Miethe, John D. Castelein, Richard Knopp, Dan Cameron, and Robert Kurka, so I'm in good company there as well.

Pictures of Me in Colorado

You want pictures, you got 'em.

DC Blog Stats

In just the last month according to Google Analytics, DC had 21 thousand visitors who visited 34 thousand times with 56 thousand pageviews. Blogger reports instead that DC had 154 thousand pageviews, so I suppose Blogger knows best. Of these visitors 55% of them were new to DC. The new visitors mostly come here from one of over 4000 posts in the archives. According to Feedburner DC is approaching close to 3000 subscribers. The graphics can be seen below. This encourages me to keep beating my head against the wall. I am very honored and thankful for my readers, I think. ;-)

Got Any Funny Stories? Here's One.

An atheist friend of mine told me of a time when some guy asked if she was born again. She said "no." So they proceeded to argue back and forth. Then her atheist husband showed up. The proselytizer asked him if he was born again. He said "yes" just to get him off his back. She was upset at the time but had a good laugh over it later.