God and the Burning of Anne Askew

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Here's a link to tell you about Anne Askew. What was done to her is horrific. There were so many injustices done to her in the name of God it's hard to take it all in. This was a barbaric Christian society. If I were God I would be embarrassed for not telling believers to be civilized democratic loving people. If I were God I would be embarrassed for not telling a society of believers that men do not own women. If I were God I would be embarrassed for not coming to her aid in some miraculous manner. If I were God I would be embarrassed for not giving people divine guidance about such matters. I would hide my head in shame if I were God. I would confess my guilt and turn away from my uncaring incompetent ways. And I would let my defenders know they too need to repent for not caring about the Anne's under Christian rule. I would repent for being an uncaring incompetent deity, for that's the kind of God that exists if one exists at all.

Religion: It’s almost like being in love

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When I criticize Christianity believers will say I was never a Christian because I now treat it like it really is, a belief system of doctrines. Christians tell me instead it's a relationship with God-in-Christ. You know, the more I think of it the more they are right. They DO treat their religion like it's a relationship. They are madly and passionately in love. The problem is that there is no object of their love, and this is a problem of enormous consequences, primarily in that people in love are blind to their lover's faults.
Think of all of those young couples “in love” who are at each other’s throats only a couple years later. While they are in the romantic love stage, they are “caught up in the emotion.” Their lover can do no wrong. Their lover is perfect. Their lover has no faults; oh, sure he or she has idiosyncrasies, but nothing that could possibly impede this relationship. At least not until the fairy dust settles and they are able to start seeing each other as flawed human beings, sometimes horribly flawed. Amazing as it seems, strong emotions can cause massive distortions in perceptions. They can make A look like Not-A. Strong emotions can also completely shut down our ability to think self-critically. Link

Quote of the Day, by Jeffrey A. Myers

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Faith is a belief in an unknown or unrealized proposition in spite of evidence that the belief is incorrect. Faith is clearly NOT a belief in an unknown or unrealized proposition that is SUPPORTED by the evidence, because if that belief was supported by the evidence, it ipso facto does NOT REQUIRE Faith. [See on Faith]

Can God Exist if Yahweh Doesn't?

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William Lane Craig in his debate with Peter Slezak, at 68 minutes in says: "I think that if you agree with me that there are certain things that are really right and wrong like child abuse, cruelty, and slavery then you will agree with me that we need God as a transcendent foundation for those objective moral values."

There is a problem though. The God that William Lane Craig is appealing to, Yahweh, does NOT condemn child abuse, cruelty, or slavery. So I simply cannot figure out how Craig's argument is supposed to work! Link

Thomas Jefferson on the Outsider Test for Faith

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In a private letter to his nephew Peter Carr, Jefferson offers some advice on how to study religion, which represents the OTF that I defend:

'A Universe From Nothing' by Lawrence Krauss, AAI 2009

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Thomas Huxley vs. Bertrand Russell on the Definition of Agnosticism

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[Written by John W. Loftus] Thomas Huxley invented the word agnostic, and by it he meant skepticism:
Agnosticism is not a creed but a method, the essence of which lies in the vigorous application of a single principle... Positively the principle may be expressed as in matters of intellect, do not pretend conclusions are certain that are not demonstrated or demonstrable. Link
Bertrand Russell defined it differently:

Quote of the Day, by Mark Priestap, a Christian Father

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We can be timid as parents to explain the wrath of God to our children because we’re afraid they’ll be too frightened and want nothing to do with him. But we are forgetting that the fear of God is a means God uses to stir up in us the desire to be forgiven by him..."Gospel fear" is a powerful weapon against unbelief. Far from being something to avoid, it is crucial to our children’s salvation and sanctification. Link

Hat Tip to Shawn Willis

60 Minutes On a Historic Film: Market Street 1906

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Morley Safer reports on a mystery that was solved about a 100-year-old film that we now know was made on San Francisco's Market Street just days before the 1906 earthquake. Link
I find this story fascinating for it's a film of San Francisco days before an earthquake destroyed what we're looking at. It's like we have detailed foreknowledge of what's to take place in just a few days. We know when looking at it the people in the film will suffer, many of them will die. What would YOU do if you had that foreknowledge? What did God do? Are we better than God? I would think so. For we would warn them.

Does modern cosmology supply the materials that can fill gaps in the traditional arguments for the existence of God?

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by Jonathan Pearce, enjoy:
In view of the belief that there has been a shift in the landscape of modern philosophy, with regards to the respectful position now adopted by theists, it is important to reassess this landscape at regular intervals. This is not particularly due to new philosophies being developed ex nihilo, but more in light of the nature of modern physics, and the constant change involved in the discipline. The assumptions that underlie most premises in cosmological arguments are often open to debate, and they depend, in no small part, on present physical and cosmological understanding. Since these are shifting sands of understanding, then philosophers must be cautious when making truly assertive and dogmatic claims. Though there are very good arguments indeed for remaining agnostic on many theories (to adopt a truly Pyrrhoian[1] sceptical approach), there is still an attractive quality about holding a definite position, whether as part of a cumulative case, or in isolation, in order to inform a worldview. That being said, all too often, worldviews inform people’s interpretation of evidence, rather than the opposite.

Two Important Philosophical Questions and Christian Theology

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The first question is What do you mean by that? The second one is How do you know? Now let's apply this to the statement: Jesus died for our sins. What sense can we make of it? How can anyone know it's true?

Re-formulating William Lane Craig's 4 Facts Resurrection Argument

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I am going to demonstrate with completely sound reasoning why the most reasonable conclusion based on the evidence is that Chippy the squirrel rose from the dead.

There are four historical facts which must be explained:
1. Chippy's burial
2. The discovery of the empty tomb
3. His post-mortem appearances
4. The origin of a few people's belief in his resurrection

Link.

Science On What Happened Before the Big Bang?

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They are the biggest questions that science can possibly ask: where did everything in our universe come from? How did it all begin? For nearly a hundred years, we thought we had the answer: a big bang some 14 billion years ago.

But now some scientists believe that was not really the beginning. Our universe may have had a life before this violent moment of creation.

Horizon takes the ultimate trip into the unknown, to explore a dizzying world of cosmic bounces, rips and multiple universes, and finds out what happened before the big bang.

How About Some Self-Promotional Blus[h]ter Too?

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I’m a John Loftus junkie. I go to his blog almost daily. Every once in a while a blogger catches my fancy, and Debunking Christianity got me hooked. At least a couple of times a week I read something on his blog I think of reproducing here...His blog is a one stop blog for current atheist news and thoughts on-line.... Blush.

The Problem of Belief

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Here's something that calls out for an explanation and no amount of Bible verses will help. What is the content of salvific faith (i.e. the kind of belief that saves a person)? What must someone believe to be saved? Simple? Not so fast. A child who confesses Jesus is lord is saved, right? I dare anyone to ask a ten year old what she thinks of Jesus, what it means to say he is lord, whether she thinks he is God, God-in-the-flesh, the 2nd person of the trinity, or a really really big guy, and so on and so forth. Ask her to define each of her words. Anyone can say "Jesus is lord" then. Does doing so save a person unless said person has the correct detailed theology that goes with it? There is no doubt in my mind that a child holds to heretical ideas when asked about them. OR, she's expressing words she has no clue as to their meaning. But if so, then there are surely professing Christians of all ages, probably most of them, who think they are saved but are not, and this could be........YOU! Since this must be the case if one is saved by faith, this is a barbaric way to base a person's salvation upon--that not only must believers express the right words but also have the proper understanding of them.

The “evidence” for Jesus’ resurrection, debunked in one page

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That's what Chris Hallquist has done. See what you think.

Dr. Avalos' Radio Interview

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Dr. Avalos comments on his chapters in The Christian Delusion and much more in an interview with the Minnesota Atheists. Dr. Avalos podcast

I'll be in South Bend, Indiana, Thursday Night

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I'm speaking at 7 PM on the Outsider Test for Faith, so come on out if you live nearby to the River Park Library, located at 2022 Mishawaka Avenue, South Bend, Indiana.

The Delusionary Thinking of Both Matt Flannagan and Paul Copan

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[Written by John W. Loftus] According to Thom Stark, both Matt Flannagan and Paul Copan have backed themselves into a corner in order to defend their faith. "According to the Bible, Yahweh killed children, and ordered others to kill children. There's no way to get around that fact," but watch them try. As I have said before, defending the Christian faith makes smart people look stupid. Check it out.

PBS Program, God in America

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I watched the first two episodes last night. The other episodes will air tonight and tomorrow. Watch them if you have the time. This program is excellent. I highly recommend it. What aired last night is now online. Don't miss this. There's a lot it doesn't deal with of course, but it's really good. If this program is correct then I now understand perfectly why a deist/skeptic like Thomas Jefferson was elected President!

God as an Explanation vs. a God Who Acts in the World

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This is a distinction that makes a difference. It also makes a great deal of sense. Believers think that if their concept of God can explain the cosmos then automatically ipso facto they have arrived at the God they believe in, who acted in the world. Nope. Not by a long shot. For a god might explain the cosmos and yet not be Yahweh. And even if Yahweh is that god, he might not have raised Jesus from the dead. And even if Yahweh raised Jesus from the dead, he might not be the classical theistic God of Anselm.

I'm Headed to the Texas Freethought Convention

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I'm making final preparations today to fly to Texas to speak on the Outsider Test for Faith. I'll get to connect with some good people on the schedule, so this will be good. Come out if you can or wish me luck. Next week I'm giving the same talk Thursday night near South Bend, Indiana (more later). If you need a speaker consider me. Link.

God Cannot Exist if Yahweh Didn't.

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Yahweh did not exist. He is much too tribal of a god, created the world in conflict with the sea God Rahab, married to Asherah, accepted child sacrifice, commanded genocide, forbid worship of all other gods (didn't deny their existence), and chose Israel like the others gods did to other nations.

Bayesian Background Priors

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[Written by John W. Loftus] A lot is made by Christian philosophers about their background "priors" when assessing the truth of Christian theism. Their claim is that with their particular "priors" they are warranted in concluding from those "priors" the evidence leads them to their faith. My claim is that they have the cart before the horse, big time, bad time.

Thom Stark's Book, "The Human Faces of God" is Available

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Thom Stark's book is The Human Faces of God: What Scripture Reveals When It Gets God Wrong (and Why Inerrancy Tries to Hide It). To read some glowing blurbs see below. I heartily recommend it as well, having seen a digital pre-pub copy. A must read book!

Quote of the Day, by Robert and Ken Pulliam

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Robert: "I think that without Internet access, I would still be a believer today. I might have wondered why the Bible gives permission to beat slaves, and I might have asked my preacher about it, but I don't think I would have searched the local libraries to find atheist authors and see what they had to say!...but entering 'Yahweh genocide' in a search engine (with the intent of finding a Christian response) can easily land us upon a site like this." Ken: "The printing press was instrumental in bringing about the Reformation in the 16th century, and I think the internet will have an even greater impact." Link

Ed Babinski Responds to "The Infidel Delusion"

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The Irrational Christian: The John Loftus Trinity Argument

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Some things are hard to explain in a video, but Rhetorical Bullshit gives it a try:

My Thoughts on Sam Harris's New Book, "The Moral Landscape"

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There truly is something new about the New Atheism now. See what I wrote about this new book on Amazon.com. You'll have to scroll down to it.

Quote of the Day, by Biblical Scholar Michael Coogan

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The point I’m trying to make is...that everyone, whether they are aware of it or not, uses the Bible selectively. Link.
This was said in an interview about his new book God and Sex: What the Bible Really Says.

High Stakes Intelligent Designing

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This is both an entertaining and informative video:

Bill O'Reilly vs. Bill Maher On Religion - 09/30/10

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See what you think below:

Dan Barker's Email

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Ever get an email also addressed to several others and the discussion goes on an on between the people involved? Dan and I were tagged in one of them recently. I had written a response earlier that basically said this. After a Christian responded Dan wrote:

Praise God for the Candiru Parasite! Isn't God Good?

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When did God create the Candiru parasite? And why didn't he tell us how to avoid it? Seems to me a good God who cared for us would at least tell us, don't you?

The Outsider Test Resonates With Many People

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If it's so blatantly misguided I wonder why it resonates with so many people?

A Proposed Scientific Test For the Truth of Christianity

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Ask some non-believing outsiders what they think of the so-called evidence for Christianity. Ask, oh, let's see where should I start, Muslims, Hindu's, Buddhists, Christian Scientists, witch doctors...

Calculate the conversion rates and get back to me. But there's more to it:

Defending the Christian Faith Makes Brilliant People Look Stupid...

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Yep, just click and read through this. As you can see they don't like me. I entered the fray a bit later. Be sure to read my links. "Tim" is professor Timothy McGrew.

God and Sex, by Michael Coogan

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I saw this book at the bookstore yesterday by biblical scholar Michael Coogan. It looks really good. I just ordered it.

God and Sex: What the Bible Really Says

Harry McCall on God, Yahweh and Elohim

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Harry wrote:
The word θεὸς “Theos” (God) in the major Liddell & Scott, et. al., Classical Greek Lexicon published by Oxford University Press: "God is defined by the deities of ancient Roman and Greece. As such, the Greek Classical textual tradition links “God” directly with the Classical Gods and not with the Christian pagan god Yahweh. When Rome left the Gods that had made them great and became Christian, the mighty Roman empire began its decline until it was sacked. It was Christianity and its god that ushered in the Dark Ages at the end of this great Classical period."

The Outsider Test Disallows Faith

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So many people are writing about the Outsider Test for Faith (OTF) I can't keep up anymore. I've made my arguments. Let them talk among themselves about it. The test is straightforward, simple and elegant. It's all about not having any double standards when critically evaluating religious faiths. In the end, the OTF disallows faith when examining the reasons to accept or re-evaluate a religion. For having faith in one's own culturally inherited religion unfairly exempts that religion from an objective evaluation.

What this means is that when examining Christianity a person who is already a Christian cannot punt to faith when encountering problems, since doing this is disallowed by the OTF. In fact, to the degree a person must repeatedly do this is the degree his or her religious sect is false. One cannot have his thumb of faith on the weighing scales. One is left with reason and evidence. No more using the omniscience escape clause either. Christians must seek to justify what they consider the facts apart from faith.

My contention is that Christians cannot do this. My contention is that this is NOT any fault with the OTF itself since it is a reasonable, objective and fair test. The fact is that Christianity MUST pass the OTF. Otherwise, people who could not be convinced to believe because they were raised as outsiders will be thrown into hell. If Christianity does not pass the OTF God is to be blamed when outsiders cannot be convinced to believe. So there can be no legitimate objection to the OTF. Q.E.D.

The Implications of the Book Mistakes Were Made (But Not By Me)

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From the description of the book we read:
Backed by years of research and delivered in lively, energetic prose, Mistakes Were Made but Not by Me offers a fascinating explanation of self-deception—how it works, the harm it can cause, and how we can overcome it.
I read it and loved it. Fascinating stuff here about cognitive dissonance and how we deceive ourselves to resolve it. The implications of this book are that we should all be skeptics and trust the sciences. Let me briefly explain.

Yes, I Am Pretty Certain I'm Right

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I am as certain that Christianity is false as Christians are that people are wasting time and money on cold fusion. [I know someone is trying to make headway in that field so don't get me wrong]. I am as certain that Christianity is false as I am that Scientology or Mormonism is false. If I'm risking hell you would think I must be sure of it, right?

We are all justifiably certain that some ideas and theories are wrong. It's easy to do. We merely conclude the case has not been made.

But these are not beliefs of mine. I am not affirming anything. I'm denying something. I deny the cases have been made. Some cases I have never even considered before, but tell me of them and I'll deny them without further thought. We all do this. So I am not doing anything out of the ordinary when I do so.

It's International Blasphemy Rights Day 2010

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Yep, that's right.

Bring on your blasphemies right here. I'll start with a gay Jesus, or is it rather a Jesus for gays? Warning: explicit cartoon image below.

Quote of the Day, by Bob

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What evidence would I accept for the claim that god exists? That's easy. All he would have to do is show up, once, -or- he could supernaturally change the way my brain works so that I no longer need evidence and am willing to accept as fact, wild claims that are based on ancient religious documents.

What Would Christians Say if Their Faith Passed the Outsider Test (OTF)?

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That Christians object to taking the Outsider Test for Faith only confirms it doesn't look good for their faith. For if Christianity passed the OTF with flying colors Christians would be arguing on behalf of it and pressing that case at every step along the way. You KNOW this is what they'd do. You know it. So by objecting to it they tacitly admit their faith doesn't pass the test. But it's worse that this, for their faith MUST pass the OTF. So now they're caught in a huge dilemma--a catch-22--either embrace the test even though doing so will cause them to abandon their faith (by their own admission), or object to the OTF even though their faith MUST pass that test.

Even Arguing Against the Outsider Test for Faith Looks Bad

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We abhor someone who is supposed to decide between two parties who also has a conflict of interest. That person could be a trustee of an estate, a judge, or a principal. We want a fair and impartial judgment. We want a fair ruling. So arguing against the Outsider Test for Faith is like arguing against a fair and impartial ruling. It is to argue against what is intuitively obvious to everyone else and consequently makes believers look very bad, because we abhor what they try to argue against. That is, even arguing against the OTF tells an outsider there is something badly wrong with the Christian faith. Good luck with that *cough*

Pew Survey: Atheists Know the Most About Religion!

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This comes as no surprise to me at all. We know the most about it because the more we learned the less we could believe.
Respondents to the survey were asked 32 questions with a range of difficulty, including whether they could name the Islamic holy book and the first book of the Bible, or say what century the Mormon religion was founded. Atheists and agnostics scored highest, with an average of 21 correct answers. Link

An Encouraging Email About "The Christian Delusion"

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Good day John, I've been spending most of my Sunday morning with a large mug of tea and The Christian Delusion, re-reading my favourite parts : and then it struck me - there really has been nothing worthy to refute any significant part of TCD since its publication! Within a few days after its release there were some blogs and general eye-rolling about how wrong you have it all and so on, and then - crickets chirping.

Now there can be three reasons why this is so:

The Protestant Clergy Sex Abuse Pattern by Valerie Tarico

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One of the most striking aspects of the Protestant clergy sex abuse pattern is that most people don’t realize it is a pattern. The Catholic Church has taken a well deserved beating in the courts and in the court of public opinion as former altar boys, orphans and ordinary parishioners have come forward with appalling stories of sex abuse. Yet equally egregious violations by Protestant clergy have failed to generate the same level of outrage. Why?

I Specialize in the Big Picture

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All scholars have a specialty, right? What's mine? As I said in my book Why I Became an Atheist, I specialize in the Big Picture. This is true and it's no joke. I gather as much of the relevant material as a mortal can possibly muster and try to make sense of it. Confound it though, all of the Big Picture specialists seem to be gone. I'm a scholar about the Big Picture (i.e., the forest) just as many other specialists are scholars about one of the trees in the forest, or a species of trees. When it comes to the Christian faith, I'm a Big Picture specialist about all things Christian. My specialty is in Countering Christian Apologetics.