Open Thread for Comment
Yes, I've been silent lately. I'm working on a new book and dealing with other exciting things in my life. So give it to me. What's up? Anything new?
A Screwed Up Book From the Beginning: Does the Bible Ever Know What It’s Talking About?
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Over a decade ago I debated a Christian apologist over the fact that the Biblical writers had no idea of what the human brain was.
My point was
that, if the Bible was literally correct, than both the first artificial heart
recipients Barney Clark and Robert Schrader (who died while on these machines)
would have been totally "unable to
have asked Jesus into their hearts" since they had in fact had no hearts
for Jesus to live in and thus ended up in Hell. This Christian apologist said
this was "ridiculous" and was very adamant that the term
"heart" in the Bible was used as a purely symbolic term being that the
Biblical authors knew full well that the muscle we call the heart was not really the place emotions and thought. By contrast, I strongly disagreed and
reaffirmed the fact that what the Bible said about the heart (Greek: Kardia, from which we get Cardiac) is exactly what is meant. (You see, we atheists are basically Bible Believers!)
Why Didn't Jesus Tell Us About Germs?
This is a nice little argument from Richard Carrier. His debate with David Marshall can be seen here.
What's the Difference Between Fundamentalism and Evangelicalism?
[First published on October 2, 2013, now updated]: Fundamentalist Christianity represents yesterday's conservative faith whereas Evangelical Christianity represents today's conservative faith...and the goal posts keep being moved. Evangelical Christianity therefore is the liberal faith that conservatives of yesterday rejected, while the Evangelical Christianity of the future will reject the theology of today's Evangelicals. Liberalism is the trend into the future. It's palpably obvious too.
Evangelicals in the eighties rejected Karl Barth, inclusivism, Hell as annihilation, the mythical interpretation of the Genesis creation stories, the late dating of 2nd Isaiah and Daniel, and they especially rejected evolution. These former Evangelical views are now being rejected by today's Evangelicals. The goal posts have simply been moved! For more read these posts of mine:
1) The New Evangelical Orthodoxy, Relativism, and the Amnesia of It All
2) The More Conservative The Church, The Less Likely It's True
Evangelicals in the eighties rejected Karl Barth, inclusivism, Hell as annihilation, the mythical interpretation of the Genesis creation stories, the late dating of 2nd Isaiah and Daniel, and they especially rejected evolution. These former Evangelical views are now being rejected by today's Evangelicals. The goal posts have simply been moved! For more read these posts of mine:
1) The New Evangelical Orthodoxy, Relativism, and the Amnesia of It All
2) The More Conservative The Church, The Less Likely It's True
Two New Bible Movies Hit the Theaters for 2014
Tonight I decided to see Lone Survivor which is an excellent movie about an ill-fated mission by Navy SEALs in Afghanistan (Highly Violent). As usual before the main movie, our sold out theater watched about six movie trailers for forth coming titles in 2014. Among the secular titles; I was intrigued to see two trailers for upcoming Biblical movies.
It's Okay That Bill Nye Debates Ken Ham
The Science Guy Bill Nye is going to debate Ken Ham at the Creation Museum in Kentucky on February 4th. Ham believes the universe is not more than 6,000 years old and that there was a world-wide flood that took place about 4,500 years ago. He believes the animals saved by a guy named Noah in his ark can explain biological diversity. Ham also believes dinosaurs co-existed with humans. Ham, in other words, is a crack pot. He represents the absolute worst kind of creationist there is, although they are all wrong. Scientists from Richard Dawkins, Jerry Coyne, PZ Myers, and a whole host of atheist bloggers are saying Bill Nye shouldn't debate Ham. Here are some reasons why:
Here is Andrew Lamprecht's Deconversion Story
Andrew Lamprecht is a former Christian living in Adrian, Michigan, who is an aspiring author. Enjoy. See if his story resonates with you.
Satanists Unveil Design for Okla. Capitol Monument
"The Satanic Temple says Oklahoma's decision to put a Ten Commandments monument at the Capitol opened the door for its statute."
"Oklahoma City — A satanic group unveiled designs Monday for a 7-foot-tall statue of Satan it wants to put at the Oklahoma state Capitol, where a Ten Commandments monument was placed in 2012."
See link: The Associated Press
"Oklahoma City — A satanic group unveiled designs Monday for a 7-foot-tall statue of Satan it wants to put at the Oklahoma state Capitol, where a Ten Commandments monument was placed in 2012."
See link: The Associated Press
Also of interest: The Satanic Temple website
Get Peter Boghossian's Audio Book, "A Manual For Creating Atheists" for Free
Seth from the Thinking Atheist podcast has a link to get a free audiobook and to get 30 days free access. You can hear Dr. Boghossian talking about his new book right here, then you can go to this link to get it free. Just search for the title "A Manual for Creating Atheists," and listen to the free, unabridged version of the book as read by the author, Peter Boghossian himself. Plus, you're helping support TTA I'm told.
Anyone Want to Improve On This Quote of the Day?
Give it a try, I want you to:
Not only is fundamentalist Christianity the greatest threat in the United States to science, tolerance, and social progress, but it is also the most prevalent form of Protestant Christianity to be found in our nation, whether you like it or not. It is the fundamentalist religious right that holds the reigns of the Republican party (which currently controls the nation, in case you didn't realize), and it is this same fundamentalist religious right that lobbies for the teaching of lies in public school and fights against funding for embryonic research that could potentially save the lives of millions. Whether you like it or not, it is this flavor of Christianity that makes the loudest, most obnoxious, most dangerous impact on the world today, giving us plenty of good reason to direct the brunt of our attacks in its vicinity.
Russell Blackford Comments On the Book, "God or Godless"
Russell Blackford is a philosopher with numerous books to his name. On Facebook he said this:
This is all gratifying to me personally. For anyone who has not seen it, co-author Randal Rauser and I debated each other in Edmonton, Canada, on June 5, 2013. Enjoy it below:
I'm currently reading God or Godless?Biblical scholar Robert Price said the same thing. Dustin Lawson, Josh McDowell's infidel disciple, agreed wholeheartedly.by John W. Loftus and Randal Rauser. From my perspective, the former is intellectually demolishing the latter. You may think I'm biased, but it's not that simple. I suspect that I would (to my dismay) have had the same response even in my Christian days. Loftus is very good in this debate, but even that is not the problem for Rauser. So much Christian apologetics may be internally consistent... but still looks bizarre and implausible the moment you try to look at it from the outside. There's not much Rauser can do about this.
This is all gratifying to me personally. For anyone who has not seen it, co-author Randal Rauser and I debated each other in Edmonton, Canada, on June 5, 2013. Enjoy it below:
Labels: "Rauser", God or Godless, GoG Reviews
The Science Guy Bill Nye to Debate Ken Ham
Bill Nye to Visit Creation Museum for Debate
"Bill Nye "The
Science Guy" is set to visit Kentucky to debate evolution and biblical
creation with the founder of the Creation Museum."
Pastor Mark Driscoll’s Holy Ghost Porn.
Mark
Driscoll, pastor of the Seattle-based
Mars Hill megachurch is no stranger to controversy. Early in his career, he was known as the ‘cussing
pastor’. As things rolled along, he
garnered a devoted following by preaching a macho
Jesus who would probably enjoy watching a UFC cage match, deriding effeminate male
worship leaders, and telling
Christian wives that they should drop their husband’s trousers and ‘serve’ them
by performing oral sex. His sermon
videos on the topic of sex are often
too controversial to be carried by GodTube (the Christian version of
YouTube). Recently, he has been in a new
kind of controversy, as charges
of plagiarism have been leveled at him.
What is
perhaps not as widely-known is his claim that he sees replays of sexual
encounters and child molestations in his head, courtesy of a ‘gift’ of the Holy
Spirit. That’s right folks. We have a pastor claiming that he has a Holy
Ghost porn channel in his head. As Mark
puts it, “I see things.”
I’ll let him
tell you about it:
Labels: j. m. green, Mark Driscoll
Frederick Douglass On Christianity and Slavery
At this point I'm beginning to write a chapter on the Bible and slavery for my new anthology. Frederick Douglass (1818-1895) escaped from slavery and became a leader of the abolitionist movement. This is what he wrote in his Narrative of the Life of Frederick Douglass, An American Slave [Norton Anthology, Vol. 2, 6th ed.]:
Henry Bibb, An American Slave, Tells of the Best Case of Slavery He Knew
At this point I'm beginning to write a chapter on the Bible and slavery for my new anthology. Here's something I ran across concerning Henry Bibb (1815-1854), an escaped slave, who became a leading abolitionist. In his autobiography Bibb describes his life as an American slave. He describes the cruelty, the beatings, lashings, and the riches gained by the slaveowners at the expense of slaves. Then at the end, in chapter twenty, he does something remarkable. He describes the best case scenario, the mildest kind of slavery he ever knew.
Bible Prophecy Fulfilled (Part 3): The Christmas Murders
The story of the wise men being guided by a heavenly star,
to the house where Jesus resided has been a key element of many a Christmas
play. What has not been talked about very often is how this little piece of
razzle-dazzle got a bunch of kids murdered. Yep.
This is one of those not-infrequent moments in the Bible which makes a
person (of even average intelligence) face palm and say “Really God? Really?
This was the best you could come up with?”
Labels: Christmas, j. m. green, prophecy
James Lindsay to Tom Gilson: "Repudiate All Unreliable Epistemologies"
The fact is unavoidable. The word faith is used to mean "I don’t have enough evidence to warrant belief in X, but I’m going to believe anyway." It’s unavoidable because they’re using the word faith for exactly this purpose, to jump an epistemic gap that can only be bridged by evidence. It is used that way because faith is not a reliable method for obtaining knowledge, and the methods that faith is based upon--tradition, authority, and revelation--are also not reliable.
Believers do this because they lack evidence and yet want to believe, so strongly in fact that they appear not to care whether or not faith is a reliable methodology. That is, Christians do not care to know what is true as much as they want to pretend to know things they do not know.
Again, Mr. Gilson, I call upon you to drop your argument with Peter Boghossian and to repudiate all unreliable epistemologies, faith--and the resulting Christianity--among these. Link
Technically Speaking, We Can't Disprove the Existence of Witchcraft, But...
Technically speaking, we cannot conclusively prove that a Devil or his demons don’t exist, or that witches cannot work their magic. There just isn’t any evidence that they do. Furthermore, with the advancement of science, supernatural explanations for any given event in our lives become unnecessary and superfluous. A Devil empowered witch may have caused a particular illness by her spell. But what best explains why we can usually trace the illness to some undercooked food that was eaten, as an example? And what best explains why the right medicine always cures the illness? If an illness was caused by the spell of a witch there is no reason to think we could find a natural cause for it. Nor is there a reason to think the right medicine could always overcome the power of the spell by curing it either.
What Went Wrong? Where is Their God? The Sad Tragedy of Christianity
In posting this News Video, I would like comments from Christians on why the Christian religion failed to control the situation and from any non-theists on your take of the situation.
(The video has been removed, but you can still read the story here:
http://www.foxcarolina.com/story/23701174/pastors-sermon)(The video has been removed, but you can still read the story here:
Two Splendid Christmas Gift Ideas!
Thanks to John for allowing me to post this. So, the celebrations are upon us to commemorate good ole Jesus and his rather miraculous (and dare I say imaginary) birth. Well, he may have been born, but not like that. But enough of that. Or maybe not. I have two rather decent suggestions with which to fill your stockings (Christmas, not underwear).
An Excerpt From My Chapter On the Witch Hunts
Hey, why not throw this out to my readers? Maybe I can get some good feedback on it. I looked in vain for a good book or essay on this, but I'm sure there must be one. It concerns the rules of evidence for convicting people of crimes in the Bible. See what you think so far of this draft:
Bible Prophecy Fulfilled (Part 2) More of Matthew's Scripture Magic

In this series we are focusing on examples surrounding the birth narrative.
Now after Jesus was born in Bethlehem of Judea in the days of Herod the king, behold, wise men from the east came to Jerusalem, saying, “Where is he who has been born king of the Jews? For we saw his star when it rose and have come to worship him.” When Herod the king heard this, he was troubled, and all Jerusalem with him; and assembling all the chief priests and scribes of the people, he inquired of them where the Christ was to be born. They told him, “In Bethlehem of Judea, for so it is written by the prophet: “‘And you, O Bethlehem, in the land of Judah, are by no means least among the rulers of Judah; for from you shall come a ruler who will shepherd my people Israel.’”Matthew 2:1-6 (ESV)
Matthew’s author quotes the book of Micah as foretelling the birthplace of Jesus. Does it?
Labels: Christmas, j. m. green, prophecy
An Evangelical Evangelist Titan Faces Death
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Billy Graham at 95 |
“Franklin Graham asks for prayers for his father”
I can’t think of one national televangelist who didn't end up running their ministry as a family business including Billy Graham.
I can’t think of one national televangelist who didn't end up running their ministry as a family business including Billy Graham.
Thirty years ago I remember Billy Graham announced his pending retirement and the question was quickly asked if his son Franklin would takeover. Rev. Graham responded "This is God’s ministry and it's God's choice to make, not mine". Well, let’s see who God chose: Billy's Son, Franklin Graham to be followed by Franklin’s own son: William Franklin Graham IV. (Yes, it looks like God sure is not a respecter of persons. (Acts 10: 34)) LOL
Sour Tidings and Wretched Festivities: How Christmas is Destroying the Heart of our Christian Commonwealth
The first, titled The Puritan War on Christmas, explains why Puritans, who are often considered the model of America’s Christian foundations, hated Christmas so much.
The second essay, titled In Praise of the Evil Kings: Latino Ethnic Identity and Biblical Scholarship, outlines why claims that the representative teachings of the Bible are social justice, love, and anti-imperialism, reflect the bibliolatrous and religionist bias of modern biblical scholarship and liberation theology.
Labels: "Avalos"
Quote of the Day, By An Executioner To a Man Accused of Witchcraft
Sir, I beg you, for God’s sake confess something, whether it be true or not. Invent something, for you cannot endure the torture which you will be put to; and even if you bear it all, yet you will not escape, not even if you were an Earl, but one torture will follow after another until you say you are a witch.These are the words of an executioner to Johannes Junius, the mayor of Bamberg, Germany, in 1628, after enduring some torture without confessing, who was subsequently burned at the stake after deciding to confess. [Source: The Witchcraft Sourcebook, p. 201.]
Learn What it Was Like When Accused of Being a Witch in Germany in 1638
Care to see what it would be like being accused of a witch in Germany of 1638? Follow this link to a simulation where you are accused of being a witch. Click on "Let the Hunt Begin..." Answer your interrogators questions and see what happens depending on how you answer them. It's interactive. It's based on actual hunts that took place in Germany during the early 1600's.
Some of The Earliest Witnesess Didn't Believe So Why Should We?
In Matthew 28:16-17 we read: "Then the eleven disciples went to Galilee, to the mountain where Jesus had told them to go. When they saw him, they worshiped him; but some doubted." How is it possible for some of the eleven disciples to doubt after seeing the resurrected Jesus? Then too the Apostle Paul claimed in I Corinthians 15:6 that, "After that, he [Jesus] appeared to more than five hundred of the brothers and sisters at the same time..." Of them, only 120 believed according to Acts 1:15: "In those days Peter stood up among the believers (a group numbering about a hundred and twenty)." Even by the testimony of the New Testament itself many of the earliest witnesses didn't believe. Why should we?
Bible Prophecy Fulfilled: Christmas Trees.
Since it’s the time of year when my Christian friends are preparing to celebrate Christmas, I feel that I must point out something very important, to them.
Christmas trees are mentioned in the Bible.
Not only mentioned, but prophesied thousands of years before they would become a part of Christmas celebrations. Not only were they predicted, but they were condemned by the prophet Jeremiah:
Christmas trees are mentioned in the Bible.
Not only mentioned, but prophesied thousands of years before they would become a part of Christmas celebrations. Not only were they predicted, but they were condemned by the prophet Jeremiah:
Thus says the Lord: “Learn not the way of the nations, nor be dismayed at the signs of the heavens because the nations are dismayed at them, for the customs of the peoples are vanity. A tree from the forest is cut down and worked with an axe by the hands of a craftsman. They decorate it with silver and gold; they fasten it with hammer and nails so that it cannot move.Jeremiah 10:2-4 (ESV)
Clearly, the Bible condemns the practice of cutting and decorating Christmas trees. All believers who practice such things are in rebellion against their god - right? Maybe I will have to tear up my American Atheists membership card. We have a bona fide example of fulfilled prophesy in the Bible!
Labels: Christmas, j. m. green, prophecy.
Which Subtitle For My Anthology "Christianity is Not Great" Sounds the Best?
- Christianity is Not Great: Why Faith Causes Good People to Do Atrocities
- Christianity is Not Great: Why Faith Causes Good People to Do Great Harm
- Christianity is Not Great: Why Faith Threatens Human Flourishing
- Christianity is Not Great: Testing Faith With The Practical Empirical Results
- Christianity is Not Great: Faith Tested Against The Practical Empirical Results
- Christianity is Not Great: Faith Fails The Practical Empirical Results
- Christianity is Not Great: Why Faith Is Bad For Us and Our Planet
- Christianity is Not Great: Why Faith Is an Utterly Unreliable Moral Compass
- Christianity is Not Great: Why Faith Is an Utterly Unreliable Moral Guide
- Christianity is Not Great: How Faith Kills
- Christianity is Not Great: How Faith Destroys Us
- Christianity is Not Great: The Destructiveness of Faith
The Barbaric Christian Witch Hunts
I'm doing some research for a chapter on the witch hunts for my new anthology, "Christianity is Not Great." A description of it and a link to the chapters can be seen here. The title to this post will probably be the one I'll use for the chapter. Any other suggestions? I've selected a few quotes to begin the chapter. See what you think.
Russell Blackford Interviewed About His Book, "50 Great Myths about Atheism"
You can read the essay below, published in the book pages of the Newcastle Herald.
Dan Lambert Objects When I Said Christianity Made No Discoveries in 2013
Dan and I are friends. We live in the same city. He is a former professor at John Brown University who used my book, "Why I Became an Atheist" in one of his classes. He is also on record as saying "Christians should be reading John Loftus's Books." Still he thinks his faith is strengthened by reading them. Okay, I guess. Recently on Facebook he objected to a link I provided where I made fun of the fact that Christianity made no discoveries in 2013. Here is our exchange about it on Facebook. I think it is instructive. Enjoy.
Labels: "Dan Lambert"
"Telekinesis" is Now a Reality: The Top Ten Scientific and Religious Discoveries of 2013
Let's do a comparison between science and religion by looking at their top ten discoveries in 2013, okay? Here are the results of last year. First take a look at the top ten scientific advances in 2013, from ListVerse. Pretty impressive, right? "Telekinesis" is now a reality. Now let's consider the top ten religious discoveries in 2013:
A List of Scientists Who Became Creationists After Studying the Evidence
If you can spot anyone who's been missed, please add their name in the comments. LINK.
Hat/Tip Matthew Cobb
Hat/Tip Matthew Cobb
Dr. Matt McCormick Offers a Serious Blow to William Lane Craig's Credibility
McCormick is a professor of Philosophy for the California State University in Sacramento, CA. He is the author of the best book arguing against the resurrection of Jesus, Atheism And The Case Against Christ.
McCormick is developing an online Philosophy of Religion course. In one 33 minute video is a hard-hitting critique of Craig's view of the "Witness of the Holy Spirit." This is top notch stuff.
If you have a Google+ account you can see other videos he has made, right here. They include Swinburne's Argument From Design; Leibniz: This is the Best of All Possible Worlds; Hick: Suffering Builds Moral Character; Introduction to the Problem of Evil; Religion and Morality; Clifford and James on the Ethics of Belief; Confirmation Bias; and What is Atheism?
If you have a Google+ account you can see other videos he has made, right here. They include Swinburne's Argument From Design; Leibniz: This is the Best of All Possible Worlds; Hick: Suffering Builds Moral Character; Introduction to the Problem of Evil; Religion and Morality; Clifford and James on the Ethics of Belief; Confirmation Bias; and What is Atheism?
How Does Science Work? Believers Need to Become Scientifically Literate
Isn't it interesting that the more someone becomes scientifically literate the less is believed? It's not just the conclusions reached, although that is clearly important, it's understanding the process of how science itself works. Believers love to focus on the demarcation line between science and non-science, on cutting edge science which is still as yet unsettled, and ask endless questions about the precise description of the scientific method. But only by truly understanding how science works can they see why faith is an utterly unreliable method for understanding the nature and workings of the universe. To understand this process I heartily recommend the following books. According to one of them, written by Dennis Trumble, "For many people of faith the issue isn't about determining which beliefs are true and which ones are false but, rather, deciding which beliefs are good and which are bad." (p. 30).
Extraordinary Claims Require Extraordinary Evidence, No Ifs Ands or Buts About It
I like provocative post titles. They're fun to create. Carl Sagan popularized this principle, that extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. What I argue more precisely, is that extraordinary claims require a sufficient amount of objective evidence for them, especially when we have good reasons to expect the evidence should exist. The first thing you'll notice is that what I argue for works regardless of whether we're dealing with an ordinary or an extraordinary claim. The difference is how much evidence is required. When it comes to extraordinary claims a lot of evidence is required, whereas with ordinary claims we only need a little of it. All someone has to do is consider how much evidence would be required to believe me, if I said I levitated this morning for 5 minutes. Then compare this with my claim that I just ate breakfast. I'm sure you would not believe my claim that I levitated, whereas you probably would when I say I just ate breakfast. These two claims would clearly require a different amount of evidence to accept them.
Labels: ECREE
John W. Loftus vs Randal Rauser Debate the Existence of God
This debate took place in Dr. Rauser's home church in Edmonton, Canada, on June 5, 2013. Enjoy.
Labels: "Rauser", God or Godless
I Have Never Read a More Anti-Woman Text Than "The Witch Hammer"
I'm doing some research for a chapter on the witch-hunts for my new anthology, "Christianity is Not Great." A description of it and a link to the chapters can be seen here. The Malleus Maleficarum (literally "The hammer of malefactresses, i.e. wrongdoing women, or witches) is a treatise on the prosecution of witches that was written by Heinrich Kramer (and James Sprenger) in 1486.
The main purpose of it was to argue that witchcraft exists, that witches were more often women than men, and to provide magistrates with guidelines that could help them find and convict them. In the Introduction to this work, published in 1948 by Dover Publications, translator Montague Summers wrote:
The main purpose of it was to argue that witchcraft exists, that witches were more often women than men, and to provide magistrates with guidelines that could help them find and convict them. In the Introduction to this work, published in 1948 by Dover Publications, translator Montague Summers wrote:
It is hardly disputed that in the whole vast literature of witchcraft, the most prominent, the most important, the most authoritative volume is the Malleus Maleficarum (The Witch Hammer) of Heinrich Kramer and James Sprenger...The Malleus lay on the bench of every magistrate. It was the ultimate, irrefutable, unarguable authority. It was implicitly accepted not only by Catholic but by Protestant legislatures. In fine, it is not too much to say that the Malleus Maleficarum is among the most important, wisest, and weightiest books of the world.Note the word "wisest"? He was clearly a witch-hunt sympathizer. Nonetheless, given the influence of this witch-hunt manual I find it incredibly dense for Christians to say their faith was the motivator for the emancipation of women. It can't be. Just see for yourselves with selected quotes:
Sam Harris - Morality and the Christian God
A few weeks ago Sam Harris asked for volunteers to remix a clip from his William Lane Craig debate into a video. Here is one very powerful result.
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