Two Unanswerable Dilemmas Concerning God and Morality

God is like a parent who tells his children "Do as I say and not as I do."

God commands us to do good, to be kind, to be merciful, and seek after justice for the disenfranchised, but he doesn't do it. Do as I say and not as I do, is the divine message.

God is the ultimate hypocrite. Christians worship a divine hypocrite who is above ethical standards. Yet they maintain God is the standard for ethics. A whole industry of apologists for this hypocritical God has arisen to justify his deeds and his inaction in our world. It doesn't make any sense at all. Christians don't make sense. They call good evil and evil good. Woe to people like that, God hypocritically said (Isaiah 5:20).

What can justify this divine hypocrisy? 1) Creation. He's the creator. We aren't. So he has the right to take our lives because he made us. 2) Omniscience. He has it. We don't. So he knows what is best. Power (or ownership) and Knowledge. This supposedly justifies why he acts differently than he commands us to act. This is why he can do evil and call it good. This is why he can tell us to do as I say and not as I do. Do these twin attempted justifications offer an adequate apology for God? No, no, no.

Pictures of Two of My Bookshelves

Here are pictures of two of my bookshelves. Say that I'm ignorant. Go ahead. Say it. ;-) And yes, I've read most of the books or significant parts within them. Click on a picture to enlarge it.

The Era of Memory Engineering Has Arrived

Yep, that's science baby! It gives rise to the thought that God could easily help people who have suffered and continue to suffer debilitating memories, like a war veteran or a rape victim, who might want the emotional content of a specific, life-destroying memory modified. A merciful God doesn't do this but science will probably be able to sometime soon. Kudos to science! Jeers to God.

A Manual for Creating Atheists - Book Review

Guest Post By David Marshall On His Recent Debate with Phil Zuckerman

I have offered several Christian scholars a guest post here at DC. To see them click here. I do so in the interests of letting them speak for themselves in the spirit of dialogue and debate. There is just something about David Marshall I cannot figure out. He seems so nice and congenial at times and yet so, well, ignorant. Still, he's a human being and I find people interesting, even evangelical pseudo-scholars like him. Given some of the comments concerning his debate performances and his indefatigably ubiquitous presence on atheist websites and blogs, I thought I would offer him a chance to address us. I warned him in advance he may not be treated well here, but he can handle it. If nothing else, look at what he writes as a case in understanding the mind of the believer. It was originally an email presumably sent to several prominent atheists. Try to enjoy. ;-)

Quote of the Day, by Cipher

The following quote is well articulated, even if I don't agree. I have tried to disabuse cipher of the following cynical position to no avail. I consider it a rhetorical exaggeration that makes a very forceful point, and not completely false given the nature of faith. It's meant as an explanation for why most of our best attempts at arguing Christians out of their faith fail miserably. It was said in response to David Marshall's unwillingness to admit he lost his debate with Phil Zuckerman recently, where Marshall wrote, "He didn't win the debate -- he admits he didn't rebut my arguments."

Halloween Special: All About Satan!

It's that special time of year when the forces of darkness and sugary excess are unleashed upon the U.S. and other countries which celebrate Halloween.  Although this holiday's pagan roots run deep, it also has direct ties to the Christian feast of All Hallow's Day, and I must say that I am a bit disappointed that my Christian Facebook friends are not busily posting "Keep Christ in Halloween" memes on their status updates.

I would also like to take this opportunity to remind our Christian friends (and enemies) that the fact that we do not believe in their imaginary god also means we do not believe in  - or worship -  his fictional arch-enemy.

For those who have never delved into how the Satan character evolves in the biblical writings (and how Christianity borrows from other religions to build its concept of Satan), I am linking to several videos.  I would also recommend the book The Birth of Satan: Tracing the Devil's Biblical Roots by T. J. Wray and Gregory Moberly.  It is a fast read, entertaining, and gives a good popular-level coverage of the topic.

Randal Rauser and Myself in Conversation Parts 1-5

When I went up to Canada to debate Rauser in June we recorded five separate discussions, linked below. Enjoy.

Christian, If God is Not Blessing You Then Examine Your Life!

Over the last 40 years while living in the Buckle on the Bible Belt South, I’ve always been fascinated with the excuses preachers give on radio and television explaining why God is not blessing Christians in their “Walk of Faith”.

One thing all explanations have in common; they put 100% of the blame on the believer for God not blessing their life. Remember God’s promises never fail (not because they don't happen), but it’s because the Christian is not doing something right or (and God forbid) there might be hidden sin.

The following are some of the many excuses I’ve heard over the decades as to why God is not blessing a life of faith:

Peter Boghossian on "Street Epistemology"

This talk is based on chapter four of his book, A Manual for Creating Atheists.

The Immorality of Salvation

The Christian concept of salvation is an immoral one.

im•mor•al
adjective
1. Violating moral principles; not conforming to the patterns of conduct usually accepted or established as consistent with principles of personal and social ethics
Dictionary.com

Before I tell you why, let’s set the scene. Christianity teaches humanity is doomed to go to Hell where the god Yahweh will do Very Bad Things to them, forever. Why is humanity doomed? Well, apparently, Yahweh did a product launch - Humans 1.0 - without doing adequate beta-testing (perhaps he runs Microsoft also). His product didn’t function quite like he wanted it to.  A skeptical talking snake proved more persuasive than an all-powerful deity, and so the prototypical couple snacked their way into the bad graces of their Sky Daddy. Rather than acknowledging his own incompetence, the Loving Creator instead cursed humans with painful childbirth, male domination of women, and a difficult life, ending in death. No second chance and no appeal process. One strike, you’re out. It’s all there in Genesis 3, if you need more details.

Damn That Articulett, She's Good!

A Christian who fancies himself as an intellectual named labreuer is being taken to task by articulett. Here is what she recently wrote, which deserves a post of it's own. I'm glad she's on our side, the correct side!

It's not that I don't believe in invisible things-- music is invisible... so is justice... and atoms and magnetism and electricity... and lots of things were invisible before we had microscopes... but they are all distinguishable from nothing... But beings mean consciousness and consciousness means brains-- it doesn't really mean anything to speak of immaterial consciousness... it would be like "music" without matter (sound can't travel in a vacuum)... just because we can imagine such a thing and want such a thing to exist doesn't make it real. So "god" (like souls) tends to be a nebulous word that people shift to mean what they need it to mean for the time being... they don't give it any real properties so there is not chance to disprove it. It's like Scientology's Thetans... they don't exist outside the belief of Scientologists... the same goes for Xenu. I can't prove this... but I can say that if these things WERE real there should be some evidence that would distinguish them from fantasy. If there is none-- then it makes sense to conclude they're fantasy. No scientist need to concern herself with such "things"-- the same goes for god, demons, and ghosts.

Do Bananas Have Free Will?

I'm told bananas have 50% of the DNA of human beings. So I got to thinking do they have free will? Watch them grow and ask yourself if they ever made one single free will choice. If they don't, then why do you think human beings do? Does adding DNA change anything? What? Let's call THIS "The Banana Argument" against free will. Jerry Coyne eat your heart out. I got this one.

The More Conservative The Church, The Less Likely It's True

I think a solid case can be made for the title of this post. Hopefully some conservative Christians might even be able see this themselves in what follows (but I don't have my hopes up). Consider first the differences between conservative and liberal Christianities:

Liberal Christianity, broadly speaking, is a method of biblical hermeneutics, an undogmatic method of understanding God through the use of scripture by applying the same modern hermeneutics used to understand any ancient writings. Liberal Christianity does not claim to be a belief structure, and as such is not dependent upon any Church dogma or creedal statements. Unlike conservative varieties of Christianity, it has no unified set of propositional beliefs. The word liberal in liberal Christianity denotes a characteristic willingness to interpret scripture while attempting to achieve the Enlightenment ideal of objective point of view, without preconceived notions of the inerrancy of scripture or the correctness of Church dogma. LINK.

As Believers in God (James 2:19), Demons Could Serve at Homeless Soup Kitchen While Caring Atheists Can’t

Atheists forbidden to volunteer at soup kitchen

SPARTANBURG COUNTY, S.C. —A group of Upstate atheists say that a local charity won't let them volunteer to help the homeless, but those who run the soup kitchen say that the atheists are just looking for publicity. Upstate Atheists, a group with about 200 members, say they offered to volunteer at the Spartanburg Soup Kitchen, but were turned away because they are not believers.

David Marshall Is Not Yet Ready for Prime Time, Loses Another Debate

He lost to Phil Zuckerman so badly that the church refuses to post the video. You can read up on this at Jerry Coyne's blog, who seems to cover most news that's worth covering, with a nice punch. LINK. You do remember the trashing Richard Carrier dealt to Marshall, don't you? If not, watch it and see. David Marshall is a joke, folks, and this is my judgment apart from his debates.

Another "Not a Real Christian" Christian Bites the Dirt

Married Youth Pastor

Victim of youth pastor sex abuse speaks out

"The abuse started with secret text messages which led to a sexual relationship between a teenager and married youth pastor."

As Goes the Old Testament (Hebrew Bible), So Goes the New Testament and the Qur’an: Two New Posts for November and December

Original Enoch in Aramaic

Post 1:
Recent facts presented by Emmanuel Tov and other scholars of the Hebrew Bible have used textual evidence from the Qumran Scrolls to force a revision in the orthodox canonical assumptions that have long formed the matrix of the Judeo-Christian-Islamic belief systems. Reality has proven time and again that believers have depended on theological assumptions to apologetically defend the historicity of Biblical events which remains an imperative if these three major monotheistic religions are to have any textual base in historical reality.

Ted Cruz, Anointed King of Republicans?

Republican politics has been in a long-standing illicit affair with religion. Parachurch moral watchdog groups, Bible-banging Baptists and fertility-venerating Catholics all seek to use political means to enforce their peculiar views of human sexuality. Calvinistic theonomists want to impose Old Testament laws (including the death penalty for blasphemy and homosexuality).  In other words, a sort of unholy offspring of the good old days of the 1950's, married to an Iranian theocracy.

Another Anthology of Mine Will Be Published, "Christianity is Not Great"

Yep, and I'm as excited as can be. Prometheus Books has just accepted another book proposal of mine on the harms of Christian faith, titled after Christopher Hitchens's NY Times bestselling book, God Is Not Great: How Religion Poisons Everything.It's slated for a Winter 2014 or Spring 2015 publication date. Here are the table of contents and a list of authors:Introduction

1) Religious Violence and the Harms of Christianity, by John W. Loftus


Part One: How Faith Fails:

2) The Failure of Christianity and Triumph of Reason, by Robert G. Ingersoll

3) The Folly of Faith: The Incompatibility of Science and Christianity, by Victor J. Stenger

4) Faith, Epistemology, and Answering Socrates’ Question by Translation, by Peter Boghossian


Part Two: Political/Institutional Harms:

5) Love Your Enemy, Kill Your Enemy: Crusades, Inquisitions, and Centuries of Christian Violence, by David Eller

6) Thou Shalt Not Suffer a Witch to Live: The Wicked Christian Witch Hunts, by John W. Loftus

7) They Will Make Good Slaves and Christians: Christianity, Colonialism, and the Destruction of Indigenous People, by David Eller

8) The Slave is the Owner’s Property: Christianity and the Savagery of Slavery, by John W. Loftus

9) Christianity and the Rise of American Democracy, by Richard Carrier


Part Three: Scientific Harms:

10) The Dark Ages, by Richard Carrier

11) The Christian Abuse of the Sanctity of Life, by Ronald A. Lindsay

12) The Gender Binary & LGBTI People: Religious Myth and Medical Malpractice, by Veronica Drantz

13) Christianity Can Be Hazardous to Your Health, by Harriet Hall

14) Christianity and the Environment, by William R. Patterson

15) Doth God Take Care For Oxen?: Christianity’s Acrimony Against Animals, by John W. Loftus


Part Four: Social & Moral Harms:

16) The Cultural Wars, by Ed Brayton

17) Woman, What Have I To Do With Thee?: Christianity’s War Against Women, by Annie Laurie Gaylor

18) Secular Sexuality: A Direct Challenge to Christianity, by Darrel W. Ray

19) Psychological Harms of Christianity, by Marlene Winell and Valerie Tarico

20) Abusive Pastors and Churches, by Nathan Phelps


Part Five: Morality, Atheism and a Good Life

21) “Tu Quoque, Atheism?” - Our Right to Judge, by Jonathan Pearce

22) Only Humans Can Solve the Problems of the World, by James A. Lindsay

23) Living Without God, by Russell Blackford

About the Contributors

More details will follow in the months to come. This will be a superior book without peer since it has superior contributors writing substantive chapters on many of the most important issues.

Peter Boghossian's Book is Now Available!

It's titled, A Manual for Creating Atheists, and from the looks of it he's taking Amazon by storm!Everyone interested in the atheist versus faith debate should get it, NOW!

The Evidence from Guilt Argument

In a previous post I summed up the evidence for Christianity, which you can read here. I think I missed something. Guilt. We all feel guilty at times for something we did or didn't do. Religions pounce on this. Almost all of them. It's used as a wedge to open up the mind for faith. There is something wrong with us. We desire to do good and yet too often we don't. We even have false guilt, accepting responsibility for something that wasn't our fault. Religions were created to provide the solutions, almost all of them. They offer a way to find forgiveness, along with a way to behave better. Religions therefore thrive on guilt. C.S. Lewis made this a centerpiece in his classic book, Mere Christianity. However, if guilt is considered as evidence for religion then it favors none of them because it equally supports them all. Evidence that equally supports mutually contradictory religions cannot be considered as evidence for any of them.

Articulett Does it Again!

If you visit here at DC then eventually you'll run into articulett (or she will run into you!). She is a High School teacher with a master's degree, and that's all I'll tell you. She is also an administrator here but doesn't exercise her powers much at all. She has never written one post. But she is a pit-bull when it comes to unevidenced supernatural magical beliefs. I admire her tenacity and her use of words. She helps me deal with the comments of believers, and like all of my posse, I appreciate this so very much! I actually met articulett in Vegas when I was at TAM in July (that's James Randi's, The Amazing Meeting). She is a very delightful person. We laughed a lot. She has become quite the advocate of the Outsider Test For Faith (OTF) too, and you know that's music to my ears. Here are some recent quotes of hers. Enjoy.

R. Douglas Geivett On, "Can And Would God Speak to Us?"

R. Douglas Geivett

As announced earlier I’m planning on reviewing select chapters in the new evangelical anthology, In Defense of the Bible: A Comprehensive Apologetic for the Authority of Scripture, edited by Steven B. Cowan and Terry L. Wilder.[To read other entries in this series as I write them, just click on the "Defending the Bible" tag below this post].

This time up is R. Douglas Geivett's chapter, "Can and Would God Speak to us?" (pp. 13-46). It's set as a dialogue much like some of the books written by Plato, Berkeley, Galileo, and Hume.

Who Cares About Certainty? We Have Virtual Certainty!

It isn't certain, but it's virtually certain that probability is all that matters when it comes to understanding the nature of the universe. It it isn't certain, but it's virtually certain that sufficient objective evidence is all that matters when it comes to understanding the nature of the universe. It it isn't certain, but it's virtually certain that evidence based reasoning is all that matters when it comes to understanding the nature of the universe. Since evidence based reasoning is science based reasoning, it's likewise true to say that it isn't certain, but it's virtually certain that science based reasoning is all that matters when it comes to understanding the nature of the universe. If anyone can provide a better method for understanding the nature of the universe then what is it? Faith has no method at all.